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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by silkey
hey jim,i know this sounds stupid being you already have the intake in production but from what i see there seems to be an improvement with flow if you would take the runner opening and put a 45 degree or so rake on it.that would cut down what looks like a 90 degee bend the air has to make when it enters the manifold port.less bends the better.that in turn would increase the volume of air the intake would hold.might breathe a little better.
We are going to do some additional dyno testing with various modifications to the manifold and if we can get some additional power we can alter the tooling.
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by smok'nZ
where can i get a 96mm or 101?

Ours won't be available for sale for several months. We just sent the design and prototype samples to the factory a few weeks ago. I realize there are too many posts on this thread to read all of them but we have addressed this question several times.

it is difficult to give an exact availability date because between the inception of a new product and having finished parts to sell, a lot of detours unfortunately can take place. Right now I would take a very rough guess at four to five months.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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jim,
i assume all th tb's will be cable actuated?
also keep less than or close to 300$ and u wont be able to keep em in stock
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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just got off the phone with byunspeed. they say the 96mm for ls1 isnt out yet and chances are that when it does the price will jump a big amount for this..just to give anyone a heads up if they didnt know this already
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
jim,
i assume all th tb's will be cable actuated?
also keep less than or close to 300$ and u wont be able to keep em in stock
Our LS2 style 96mm throttle body is a unique design. It has a detachable side plate that will accept either a conventional style cable throttle lever or an electric drive-by-wire-motor. We have to supply the motor because the stock motor has leads that are permanently connected to the factory throttle body so it isn't a swap that a do-it-yourselfer can do.

We do not have the pricing yet on this throttle body. I am guessing that the standard linkage version will be about $240 retail. I have no clue what the one with the motor will be. A lot more, probably around $300 but that's just a guess at this point.

Another feature our unit will have is that the throttle blade will open from the bottom like the stock t.b. does. Other aftermarket cable operated LS2 units open from the top which is not the optimum way to do it.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Jim, when you introduce the 96mm intake, please run comparisons to the FAST and not the LS2. Nobody would buy it if it equaled the performance of the LS2 intake.
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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A couple of members of this forum have suggested grinding away part of the lip where the port runners dump into the plenum. The general consensus here is that modification may help top end power but lose some on the bottom. We are going to modify a manifold in this manner and run it on an engine dyno compared to our unmodified manifold. Also while we are on the dyno we will also test our setup against an LS6 manifold. Unfortunately our dyno guy is tied up this week and then is leaving for Bonneville so it will be a few weeks before we can complete the project.

On another issue, both our 96mm LS2 manifolds and 96mm LS1 manifolds have shipped from the factory and we expect to have them in inventory ready to ship to our dealers by the end of August.
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Originally Posted by jimdavis@professiona
A couple of members of this forum have suggested grinding away part of the lip where the port runners dump into the plenum. The general consensus here is that modification may help top end power but lose some on the bottom. We are going to modify a manifold in this manner and run it on an engine dyno compared to our unmodified manifold. Also while we are on the dyno we will also test our setup against an LS6 manifold. Unfortunately our dyno guy is tied up this week and then is leaving for Bonneville so it will be a few weeks before we can complete the project.

On another issue, both our 96mm LS2 manifolds and 96mm LS1 manifolds have shipped from the factory and we expect to have them in inventory ready to ship to our dealers by the end of August.
more good news, thx
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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nope....
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Read a post on a similar intake made by this company for the Mustang called the Typhoon...a re-make of the popular Edelbrock Edition...ALOT of casting flash...mismatched intake to port entries and mismatched throttle body opening. Search in FORD MUSCLE for article titled "BUDGET EFI INTAKE"...I think it looks great but sometimes things are just, "TOO GOOD to be true!" Someone OTHER than the manufacturer putting one on with DYNO results? I REALLY want one myself but they have a bad rep for cosmetic problems...Personally I think most of us on here can DREMEL our way back into a budget/performance balance if their product quality is a hair off the norm. I just don't want a bunch of people running out to buy the next FAST or LS6 replacement only looking at price...
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cantalope Kid
Read a post on a similar intake made by this company for the Mustang called the Typhoon...a re-make of the popular Edelbrock Edition...ALOT of casting flash...mismatched intake to port entries and mismatched throttle body opening. Search in FORD MUSCLE for article titled "BUDGET EFI INTAKE"...I think it looks great but sometimes things are just, "TOO GOOD to be true!" Someone OTHER than the manufacturer putting one on with DYNO results? I REALLY want one myself but they have a bad rep for cosmetic problems...Personally I think most of us on here can DREMEL our way back into a budget/performance balance if their product quality is a hair off the norm. I just don't want a bunch of people running out to buy the next FAST or LS6 replacement only looking at price...
I have friends running these intakes on thier Mustangs and they make PLENTY of power. You are correct about the finish and whatnot with the flash. But they work just fine for the Mustang crowd from what I have seen first hand.

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cantalope Kid
Read a post on a similar intake made by this company for the Mustang called the Typhoon...a re-make of the popular Edelbrock Edition...ALOT of casting flash...mismatched intake to port entries and mismatched throttle body opening. Search in FORD MUSCLE for article titled "BUDGET EFI INTAKE"...I think it looks great but sometimes things are just, "TOO GOOD to be true!" Someone OTHER than the manufacturer putting one on with DYNO results? I REALLY want one myself but they have a bad rep for cosmetic problems...Personally I think most of us on here can DREMEL our way back into a budget/performance balance if their product quality is a hair off the norm. I just don't want a bunch of people running out to buy the next FAST or LS6 replacement only looking at price...
I have one on my car and I posted results on this intake vs my LS6 in this thread. You should read it before jumping to conclusions and ranting off. And any problems on the installation of this manifold are being taken care of as we speek by Professional Products. Jim Davis is doing everything he can to get us a quality product. So again, why don't you read the thread before running your mouth.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cantalope Kid
Read a post on a similar intake made by this company for the Mustang called the Typhoon...a re-make of the popular Edelbrock Edition...ALOT of casting flash...mismatched intake to port entries and mismatched throttle body opening. Search in FORD MUSCLE for article titled "BUDGET EFI INTAKE"...I think it looks great but sometimes things are just, "TOO GOOD to be true!" Someone OTHER than the manufacturer putting one on with DYNO results? I REALLY want one myself but they have a bad rep for cosmetic problems...Personally I think most of us on here can DREMEL our way back into a budget/performance balance if their product quality is a hair off the norm. I just don't want a bunch of people running out to buy the next FAST or LS6 replacement only looking at price...

We are constantly striving to improve the cosmetic appearance of our products and I think we have made good progress particularly in the last year or so. With respect to our 5.0L Mustang Typhoon, I just went out and checked the inlet opening against a 70mm throttle body and considering the opening is a cast surface, the alignment between the two looked to me to be about as good as you could expect from a casting.

Several independent sources have dynoed the 5.0L manifold, all with very good results.

While you can critique some cosmetic aspects of our products, I know that as far as performance is concerned, we don't have to take a backseat to anybody. Our SB Chevy race manifold consistently makes more horsepower than manifolds costing much, much more. And interestingly enough, it does it while using less fuel.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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I'll take performance and cheap cost over bling any day. Fast times look way better than shiny crap. Keep us updated!
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jimdavis@professiona
We are constantly striving to improve the cosmetic appearance of our products and I think we have made good progress particularly in the last year or so. With respect to our 5.0L Mustang Typhoon, I just went out and checked the inlet opening against a 70mm throttle body and considering the opening is a cast surface, the alignment between the two looked to me to be about as good as you could expect from a casting.

Several independent sources have dynoed the 5.0L manifold, all with very good results.

While you can critique some cosmetic aspects of our products, I know that as far as performance is concerned, we don't have to take a backseat to anybody. Our SB Chevy race manifold consistently makes more horsepower than manifolds costing much, much more. And interestingly enough, it does it while using less fuel.
i have used the SBC intakes a few times and also the dampers, from Proffesional Products and had nothing but great results at a great price

Jim, i would like to know if PP has considered manufacturing the type of elbows or plenums that sit on top of the 4150 carb. intakes for use with EFI and a round tb opening which are becoming the norm and popular for LSx engines making big hp,
i have installed a similiar piece like the one that PP makes for the modular motor on a friends mustang with a larger PP tb and intake manifold for the same car how ever i see that is a stock replacement piece
i believe that those types of elbow intake plenums would sell very good among
the LSx crowd and any using carb intakes converted to EFI,since GMPP is releasing carb intakes that are machined for use with injectors, but there is no really elbows but the fabricated ones from sheetmetal and the really expensive cast ones that cost as much as the intake manifold.
i think its great that you respond to our members questions about your products directly and use our input in your products and is not going unnoticed among us.
seems like the LSx market is growing in all directions every day
as how even imports and other domestic brands are swapping LSx engines into just about anything that will accept them!
hell, even a Fox body mustang accepts an LSx engine a lot easier than a mod motor.
thanks for considering this
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
i have used the SBC intakes a few times and also the dampers, from Proffesional Products and had nothing but great results at a great price

Jim, i would like to know if PP has considered manufacturing the type of elbows or plenums that sit on top of the 4150 carb. intakes for use with EFI and a round tb opening which are becoming the norm and popular for LSx engines making big hp,
i have installed a similiar piece like the one that PP makes for the modular motor on a friends mustang with a larger PP tb and intake manifold for the same car how ever i see that is a stock replacement piece
i believe that those types of elbow intake plenums would sell very good among
the LSx crowd and any using carb intakes converted to EFI,since GMPP is releasing carb intakes that are machined for use with injectors, but there is no really elbows but the fabricated ones from sheetmetal and the really expensive cast ones that cost as much as the intake manifold.
i think its great that you respond to our members questions about your products directly and use our input in your products and is not going unnoticed among us.
seems like the LSx market is growing in all directions every day
as how even imports and other domestic brands are swapping LSx engines into just about anything that will accept them!
hell, even a Fox body mustang accepts an LSx engine a lot easier than a mod motor.
thanks for considering this
It's interesting that you ask that question about the elbow that bolts to the carb flange. We just completed a new design for ours last week. Ours has some very unique features in it that will make it very desirable compared to anything else. At this time, I would not want to say exactly what we have done since a competitor might be able to take the idea and get to market before I can. Not that somebody can't copy it once we announce it but at least we will have somewhat of a head start. We are also working on a four barrel throttle body that will bolt to the top of a 4150 manifold.

We are very impressed with the LSx engines. I have had two of them in my personal cars. We also offer a couple of nice dampers for these engines and also have some coil covers in the works that are actually designed primarily to work with our manifold since the stock covers will not clear the fuel rails that come with our setup.

Thanks for you comments about our products and about my participation in this forum. The kind of feedback and info available on a forum like this is invaluable to a company like ours.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Thimble
What size TB do you have?

He has our 80mm model. We also have an 85mm. Currently we only have one first article sample of each size for testing and evaluation. Once we have completed our testing we will release them for production which should occur next week.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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any up date on the 96mm?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Our 96mm intake manifolds are scheduled to arrive in the port 8/26/06. Probably be here in our warehouse four or five days later and then we ship them out to our dealers.

The 96mm throttle body is still at least four or five months away.
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