The Sound of a Stang
Originally Posted by hammertime
Some of you may not be aware, but LS1 engine shares the same firing order of the 5.0L and 4.6L engines. Yes the numbers look different at first:
Ford = 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Chevy = 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3
But, rememeber that #1 is the drivers front cylinder on a chevy, with the other odd numbers following down that bank. #1 on a ford is the passenger front cylinder, with 2,3 & 4 following on that bank. So # 5 on a ford is # 1 on an LS1, draw it up and you'll see what I mean.
Personally, I think if you could put an LS1 under the hood of a 5.0L and bolt it up to the exhaust, it might sound strikingly similar. I think a lot of the sound is the pipe layout and the muffler locations. An F-body with LT's, H-pipe, dual mufflers in front of the axle and rear tail pipes that exit on either side at the bumper would be perfect - if you could make it fit around the panhard bar...
I'm sure difference in OHC & OHV make a difference, but the flow of air through the system is where most of your sound is coming from. Replicate the airflow, and you should come close with the sound.
Ford = 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Chevy = 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3
But, rememeber that #1 is the drivers front cylinder on a chevy, with the other odd numbers following down that bank. #1 on a ford is the passenger front cylinder, with 2,3 & 4 following on that bank. So # 5 on a ford is # 1 on an LS1, draw it up and you'll see what I mean.
Personally, I think if you could put an LS1 under the hood of a 5.0L and bolt it up to the exhaust, it might sound strikingly similar. I think a lot of the sound is the pipe layout and the muffler locations. An F-body with LT's, H-pipe, dual mufflers in front of the axle and rear tail pipes that exit on either side at the bumper would be perfect - if you could make it fit around the panhard bar...
I'm sure difference in OHC & OHV make a difference, but the flow of air through the system is where most of your sound is coming from. Replicate the airflow, and you should come close with the sound.
that is what my TA has:
QTP LTs + O/R H + 1 Chambers under the axel.. can not beat that sound...
but i drew up the firing order and it does not look the same.. what am i missing?
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From: Philly
Originally Posted by hammertime
Some of you may not be aware, but LS1 engine shares the same firing order of the 5.0L and 4.6L engines. Yes the numbers look different at first:
Ford = 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Chevy = 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3
But, rememeber that #1 is the drivers front cylinder on a chevy, with the other odd numbers following down that bank. #1 on a ford is the passenger front cylinder, with 2,3 & 4 following on that bank. So # 5 on a ford is # 1 on an LS1, draw it up and you'll see what I mean.
Personally, I think if you could put an LS1 under the hood of a 5.0L and bolt it up to the exhaust, it might sound strikingly similar. I think a lot of the sound is the pipe layout and the muffler locations. An F-body with LT's, H-pipe, dual mufflers in front of the axle and rear tail pipes that exit on either side at the bumper would be perfect - if you could make it fit around the panhard bar...
I'm sure difference in OHC & OHV make a difference, but the flow of air through the system is where most of your sound is coming from. Replicate the airflow, and you should come close with the sound.
Ford = 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Chevy = 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3
But, rememeber that #1 is the drivers front cylinder on a chevy, with the other odd numbers following down that bank. #1 on a ford is the passenger front cylinder, with 2,3 & 4 following on that bank. So # 5 on a ford is # 1 on an LS1, draw it up and you'll see what I mean.
Personally, I think if you could put an LS1 under the hood of a 5.0L and bolt it up to the exhaust, it might sound strikingly similar. I think a lot of the sound is the pipe layout and the muffler locations. An F-body with LT's, H-pipe, dual mufflers in front of the axle and rear tail pipes that exit on either side at the bumper would be perfect - if you could make it fit around the panhard bar...
I'm sure difference in OHC & OHV make a difference, but the flow of air through the system is where most of your sound is coming from. Replicate the airflow, and you should come close with the sound.
that being said, i think another big culprit is the exhaust layout. mustangs have true duals and f-bodies don't - and when they do, all they use are bullet mufflers. dynomax bullets, magnaflow bullets, sweet thunders, spiral flows...all bullet mufflers. i think the reason why single chambers sound the best and come closest to the mustang sound is because they're the CLOSEST to a real muffler we can fit! if we could put 2 40 series flowmaster mufflers in a TD setup, i bet it would sound AMAZING, way better than even single chambers. if i had money, i'd do it.
fwiw, i believe actuall cylinder size has alot to do with the sound of the engine. little V8s sound more "exotic", if you like the mustang sound you tend to really love Ferarri v8's. my big 469 pontiac in my '65 just thumps through its 40 series flomasters while a small block chevy just "rattles" the pipes some. same goes with the Viper and V12 Ferarri's. little cylinders, high pitched sound.
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Stangs sound good, yes. But since my new exhaust I have no envy......
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/a2547...4b0026944d.htm
Spun the launch but you can hear the idle before the burnout
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/403c9...4b008bd3b2.htm
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/a2547...4b0026944d.htm
Spun the launch but you can hear the idle before the burnout
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/403c9...4b008bd3b2.htm
Originally Posted by BriancWS6
Stangs sound good, yes. But since my new exhaust I have no envy......
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/a2547...4b0026944d.htm
Spun the launch but you can hear the idle before the burnout
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/403c9...4b008bd3b2.htm
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/a2547...4b0026944d.htm
Spun the launch but you can hear the idle before the burnout
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/403c9...4b008bd3b2.htm
i think mine sounds better.. no offense.. LOL still souds good. to high pitched to me
here are 2 runs when i was at the track.. you cannot hear my car over the cammin LT1 in the first vid... the 2nd one you can herar my car.. my buddy was far away though..but when you hear the rev before the race in both vids that is me
Originally Posted by BriancWS6
Stangs sound good, yes. But since my new exhaust I have no envy......
no dissrespect man..but i wouldnt do a burn out in the box..you sling up all that water into the wheel wells and may drip on your tires or on the track causing you to spinn and possibly loose control..
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
ahh anthony you know you love how my car sounds
i'm dying for your setup (except i want to go with a 2.5" H-pipe instead. i keep going back and forth between X-pipe and H-pipe. do i want that low end feel and the deeper tone, or do i want a few more ponies up top? i feel like either way i'll regret my decision 
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Originally Posted by LSXNV
fwiw, i believe actuall cylinder size has alot to do with the sound of the engine. little V8s sound more "exotic", if you like the mustang sound you tend to really love Ferarri v8's. my big 469 pontiac in my '65 just thumps through its 40 series flomasters while a small block chevy just "rattles" the pipes some. same goes with the Viper and V12 Ferarri's. little cylinders, high pitched sound.
Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
LS1's are aluminum, mustang engines are iron.
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Originally Posted by 00 SLVR Z
I thought 99+ 4v's were aluminum. The 96-98 2v and 4v's were iron and the 99-04 2v's iron too.
Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
i probably do, i wish i could hear it in person, sound clips are notorious liars i'm dying for your setup (except i want to go with a 2.5" H-pipe instead. i keep going back and forth between X-pipe and H-pipe. do i want that low end feel and the deeper tone, or do i want a few more ponies up top? i feel like either way i'll regret my decision )
i'm dying for your setup (except i want to go with a 2.5" H-pipe instead. i keep going back and forth between X-pipe and H-pipe. do i want that low end feel and the deeper tone, or do i want a few more ponies up top? i feel like either way i'll regret my decision )Where do you live again? No one in your state has that set up at all? why 2.5" and not 3" when i was doing the conversion i started that car with the x and 1 chambers.. i like how it sounded, but still had that high pitched sound to it. As soon as i started it wih the H i feel in love.. At idle ot was sooo deep and bassy..
I miss feeling that low end that i never got to experience with the H. But the X and the top end was amazing.. yea i know what you are going through it is a debate.. but i personally like the low end grunt with that deep bassy loud sound but yea again i miss that top end.. it runs like a rapped ape at 2800 RPMs and above..
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From: Philly
Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
Where do you live again? No one in your state has that set up at all? why 2.5" and not 3" when i was doing the conversion i started that car with the x and 1 chambers.. i like how it sounded, but still had that high pitched sound to it. As soon as i started it wih the H i feel in love.. At idle ot was sooo deep and bassy.. I miss feeling that low end that i never got to experience with the H. But the X and the top end was amazing.. yea i know what you are going through it is a debate.. but i personally like the low end grunt with that deep bassy loud sound but yea again i miss that top end.. it runs like a rapped ape at 2800 RPMs and above..
I miss feeling that low end that i never got to experience with the H. But the X and the top end was amazing.. yea i know what you are going through it is a debate.. but i personally like the low end grunt with that deep bassy loud sound but yea again i miss that top end.. it runs like a rapped ape at 2800 RPMs and above.. almost all the ones i see in the area are V6's with the occassional SS...and i don't know them 
