Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Mustang Guys

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:02 PM
  #1  
GreenBlood's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default Mustang Guys

Not sure if this is the right thread, but it does concern external mods, so i'll give it a try...Besides looking at 98-02 t/a's I am considering a 99-01 mustang gt as well, depending on what good deals I find...I have been to the svtperformance website and I don't really care for the layout...so to the mustang guys on here, what is the usual path for mustang bolt-ons...also, what would u recommend, 3.73 or 4.10 in the rear? For exhaust i was looking at either the SLP LM1 kit or the Magnaflow magnapack kit, also, what are considered good long tubes and x/h pipes for 'stangs? To the LS1 owners, please don't flame me, I know LS1's are faster, and I am still considering one, I am just trying to see which one I would prefer in the end. This car will see the track maybe 1-3 times a year...
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:14 PM
  #2  
jetlag's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (32)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,701
Likes: 2
From: Southaven, MS (near Memphis, TN)
Default

Originally Posted by GreenBlood
Not sure if this is the right thread, but it does concern external mods, so i'll give it a try...Besides looking at 98-02 t/a's I am considering a 99-01 mustang gt as well, depending on what good deals I find...I have been to the svtperformance website and I don't really care for the layout...so to the mustang guys on here, what is the usual path for mustang bolt-ons...also, what would u recommend, 3.73 or 4.10 in the rear? For exhaust i was looking at either the SLP LM1 kit or the Magnaflow magnapack kit, also, what are considered good long tubes and x/h pipes for 'stangs? To the LS1 owners, please don't flame me, I know LS1's are faster, and I am still considering one, I am just trying to see which one I would prefer in the end. This car will see the track maybe 1-3 times a year...

I've had 3 Mustangs, from stock to highly modified. Stick with the LS1!! They are just easier to modify.

But anyways, here is some advice.

-------
5spd - definately get 4.10s. 3.73 really isn't that much stepup from stock 3.27.

long tubes - are a bitch to install, either lift the motor or drop the k-member.

magnapack w/ offroad pipe - I had this on my 2004 GT and it sounded like a 1988 Chevy truck with straight pipes

heads/cams - around $2000 + tuning and you will see around 300-310rwhp (in a 5spd car)
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:18 PM
  #3  
GreenBlood's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default

ok, i am looking into automatics, but i trust ur word on the easiness of modding ls1's...i just love the sound of that 4.6 for some reason...i am assuming the magnapack is bad? judging from that comment, doesn't sound good...
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:23 PM
  #4  
J E T's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: Canal Winchester, OH
Default

Originally Posted by GreenBlood
Besides looking at 98-02 t/a's I am considering a 99-01 mustang gt as well, depending on what good deals I find...
On a performance aspect, I would get a 4.6 4v Cobra/Mach 1 over a 4.6 2v GT. So that means 99/01 Cobra, 03/04 Cobra and 03/04 Mach 1. I see your looking at LS1 T/A's, how come no Camaro's or Formula's?
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:27 PM
  #5  
snakesmash'nLS1's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville FL
Default

well Im a ls1 owner that has a few friends with mustang gt's (4.6) The one big problem I see with them is that the blocks are extremely weak. limited to about 400rwhp. I would say go with a ls1 they are so easy to mod. a little more than a mustang but worth it to me.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:32 PM
  #6  
bene's Avatar
Trunion King
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,394
Likes: 3
From: Texan in Colorado
Default

If you're looking for mustangs, make sure you get 3v-4vs 4.6 DOHC. Machs or Cobras. Stick w/ the strong runners.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:39 PM
  #7  
GreenBlood's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default

camaro's are possible, but i don't really like the looks of the forumla compared to the t/a...cobras and machs are most likely out of the question because i only have about 9g to spend...unless someone has a 99-01 cobra for cheap...
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:39 PM
  #8  
snakesmash'nLS1's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville FL
Default

Originally Posted by bene
If you're looking for mustangs, make sure you get 3v-4vs 4.6 DOHC. Machs or Cobras. Stick w/ the strong runners.
yeah the cobras and the mach's are strong runners. a mach 1's or cobras are nasty with a procharger or a kenne belle.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:40 PM
  #9  
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 3
From: Chicago
Default

i had a 97 GT (POS) NON PI Motor.. But my fiance she has an 02 gt PI H/C/I

96-98 GTs go with a 4.10

96-04 GTs go with a 4.10

99-04 GTs go with a 4.30

ALL COBRAS 4.30

I had both o/r X and H pipe. LTs are a pita. i ahd my motor when i did so it was a breeze. i had BBK LTs+BBK O/R H Pipe+MagnaPacks=

Steeda UDP and Timing Adjuster

C&L True Flow and Upper Plenum
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:41 PM
  #10  
CamaroSS621's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Default

I wouldnt say a LS1 is easier to mod. If you know what your doing, they are both just as easy. more bang for the buck is in the ls1 but to a point. To me, the stangs are more reliable when modded in my experience. I recommend
headers, intake, 100shot, 4:10's.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:55 PM
  #11  
GreenBlood's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default

if i did, i was thinking BBK cold air intake, some sort of LTs, either SLP or magnapack, 4.10s, and then venom makes a 100 shot kit thats only 380 bucks...and then a tune...is it possible to hit 12s with that setup?

Last edited by GreenBlood; Jan 23, 2007 at 07:06 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:56 PM
  #12  
TORCHD 02 TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,883
Likes: 3
From: Chicago
Default

Originally Posted by GreenBlood
if i did, i was thinking BBK cold air intake, some sort of LTs, either SLP or magnapack, 4.10s, and then venom makes a 100 **** kit thats only 380 bucks...and then a tune...is it possible to hit 12s with that setup?

you will need a DR for sure!
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:06 PM
  #13  
GreenBlood's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default

Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
you will need a DR for sure!

word to that, but is it enough for 12s?
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:09 PM
  #14  
99zman's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,422
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by GreenBlood
if i did, i was thinking BBK cold air intake, some sort of LTs, either SLP or magnapack, 4.10s, and then venom makes a 100 **** kit thats only 380 bucks...and then a tune...is it possible to hit 12s with that setup?
Sorry but i have to.... it might be possible, but it is more possible that you"ll through a rod through the block. Every one says the lowend is weak. if you keep it stock you can beat it to death, any power adder your on borrowed time, kinda like a 10bolt. i had a mustang my dad has a blown and stroked 00gt and to put truth to my above statement. i was at the track with my friend 04 gt full bolt on's with a ati blower with 7000 miles and the third run. boom... and then we rode home in a flatbed.. he put the rod through the block. but as far as looks i love em. good luck.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:09 PM
  #15  
snakesmash'nLS1's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville FL
Default

i think high 12s or 13 flat
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:25 PM
  #16  
CamaroSS621's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Default

my 96 goes high 12's on 100 shot. 373's full exhaust, intake PI heads/cams, Dr's and lots of time in the drivers seat.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:28 PM
  #17  
5_02ls1's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,131
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default bolt ons

i have owned mustangs lots of mustangs.the 99-01 gts love mods.if you buy one and its an auto go with a 4.10 or 4.30 gear.3.73 isnt low enough for the shitty *** ford gear ratio.converters are outragiously priced.if you go nitrous get the efi controled kit its pricy but wont screw up the engine.as for bolt ons bbk or mac always done me well.
cold air,tb,plenum,gears,flowmaster is what most mustang guys use.it sounds the best.these mods and a 125hp shot on sticky tires you will run mid to high 12s.i know this for a facty all my buddies still own mustangs.
I went LS1 and Ill never go back.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:33 PM
  #18  
GT500Guy's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: NorCal
Default

I've had a load of cars over the years. 440-sixpack Cuda in 1970, four Shelbys, a couple of Camaros, three Trans Ams. All good, all fun. The fourth gen F-bodies were just too hard to work on for my taste. Great mechanicals, and the LS1 is just terrific. The strength of the later Mustangs is just access. The engine isn't halfway under the dash.

The early C5 Vettes are coming down in price pretty well, and are much easier to work on. Even old arthritic me can get at anything on the C5. I guess it's just years catching up, but I'd hang on until I could get something close to what you want.

I've been a Shelby owner for over 30 years, so I don't knock the Fords lightly, but the new Corvettes (C6, LS2) consistently outperform the 2007 GT500 in the tests. With 100 less horsepower. If you want the musclecar sound, you can look at different exhaust systems. Corsa seems to focus on the euro-exotic sound, but Billy Boat put out the straight-pipe rumble-n-roar sound, and I'm sure others do, too. Including some of the forum sponsors.

Summary - IMHO the Mustangs are easier to work on, but the LS1 engines are dynamite. The early C5 cars are becoming bargains (but probably stay away from the 1997, just because of limitations on overbore of the engine). I love the WS6 T/As, but the SS Camaros are great and are my son's favorites. Can't go wrong with any, but better to scrape coins together and get what you really want.

Example: A friend has a 1968 Camaro he got when we were in high school, in 1970. His sister and her husband bought it, then defaulted so Dad bought it for him. It was exactly what he wanted, and he's still got it nearly 40 years later...
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:37 PM
  #19  
schiccc's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Default

my last mustang was a 2000 gt with motive 3.90 gears o/r xpipe,flowmaster cat backsteeda ud pulleys,plenum,tb,densecharger,and a set of houston performence blower cams and springs with a tune and it went 12.86 on drag radials.go 4.10 or 4.30,steeda ud pulleys full exhaust and a tune with sticky tires you shoud be low 13 and dont get a bbk cai they suck.thought id throw in a couple pics i really miss that car but a fbody will respond to bolt ons alot better than a 2v gt.
Attached Thumbnails Mustang Guys-dscf0108.jpg   Mustang Guys-mustang002.jpg   Mustang Guys-dscf0093.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:40 PM
  #20  
GreenBlood's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
From: Schiller Park (NW burb of Chicago)
Default

lol, penny scrapin is a little difficult for me because i am about to take my loans for college...but in the mean time in need something bad *** to replace my tahoe... i need a modded car thats really reliable...i just found a gt with a saleen body kit...looked bad ***...i love the look of stangs...just can't tell which i like more...lol
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:04 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE