CAI vs LID
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CAI vs LID well i see alot of people say they are running lids well i was wonder what the difference is between a lid and a regular k&n intake system. i was lookin to buy an intake but i see most people running lids. is there some advantage to them other then the price?
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A lid and free ram air kit, SSRA FTRA and other are the way to go for the best gains be careful with the KN not to over oil it as it will gunk up your maf.
But dont take my word for it if you try a serch you can see that this topic has been brought up 100000000000 x's
But dont take my word for it if you try a serch you can see that this topic has been brought up 100000000000 x's
A lid and free ram air kit, SSRA FTRA and other are the way to go for the best gains be careful with the KN not to over oil it as it will gunk up your maf.
But dont take my word for it if you try a serch you can see that this topic has been brought up 100000000000 x's
But dont take my word for it if you try a serch you can see that this topic has been brought up 100000000000 x's
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anyway, go with a lid and FTRA (or SSRA), best gains available
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Haha, you guys drive your cars in the rain???!!!! I'll admit I've been caught a few times, but I just get careful and watch out for puddles. I have the SLP lid and SLP Cold-air. Works well for me. If your car is a daily driver and is in the rain on a regular basis, you may want to stay away from the cold-air setup. Water in your engine probably isn't worth the extra couple horsepower up top.
Yeah i searched it and it sure looks cool. Some guy even reported gains over an aftermarket lid....? Im not sure how much it would dyno over stock but it sure looks cool. The only thing that isnt cool is the 250 bucks to buy one!
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my ram air hood sucks air great and pressures my intake air to 10 psi, just like a blower would. SSs are God. lol........do the lid and be through.
Definitely stick with a lid and FTRA over a K&N FIPK system. The K&N system is just breathing hot underhood air which = less HP. Every 10 degree F you drop the intake temp is about 1 % more HP on a normally aspirate application. You can imagine how hot it can get under the hood and do the math yourself.
If you have a WS6 car, we do sell the JAAM kit to seal the hood to the intake and make it functional. For all the other models of car, the FTRA will work great.
If you have a WS6 car, we do sell the JAAM kit to seal the hood to the intake and make it functional. For all the other models of car, the FTRA will work great.
If you don't care about the hood and want slightly better performance over the JAAM kit, go with the FTRA.
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Haha, you guys drive your cars in the rain???!!!! I'll admit I've been caught a few times, but I just get careful and watch out for puddles. I have the SLP lid and SLP Cold-air. Works well for me. If your car is a daily driver and is in the rain on a regular basis, you may want to stay away from the cold-air setup. Water in your engine probably isn't worth the extra couple horsepower up top.
The whole "straw" effect is a misnomer. You'd hafta run into a puddle large enough to completely submerge the air dam and FTRA inlet. hitting a puddle that big would dramamtically cause you to slow down, and you would instantly lose the vacuum effect. You cant drive (or at least shouldn't be driving) your car fast enough for water to A) jump 2 or more feet vertically and then B) completely saturate the filter and THEN C) turn 90* and shove itself through the MAF screen, bellows, and TB into your intake. And if you are driving fast enough for that to happen, driving that fast into a puddle large enough to cause that to happen is the very, very least of your issues; especially if there's any traffic or curbs or obstacles around you.
-And as for dirt/rocks. That's what a filter is for. I cant say that i've had anything fly past my filter.
It really isnt that bad. I've been DD'ing my car for three years now in Northern California, and the rain can get pretty bad. I constantly have to drive on the freeway in storms, I've hit some pretty big puddles with my car at speeds from 20-65mph, and my FTRA + Lid combo has never sucked up any water.
The whole "straw" effect is a misnomer. You'd hafta run into a puddle large enough to completely submerge the air dam and FTRA inlet. hitting a puddle that big would dramamtically cause you to slow down, and you would instantly lose the vacuum effect. You cant drive (or at least shouldn't be driving) your car fast enough for water to A) jump 2 or more feet vertically and then B) completely saturate the filter and THEN C) turn 90* and shove itself through the MAF screen, bellows, and TB into your intake. And if you are driving fast enough for that to happen, driving that fast into a puddle large enough to cause that to happen is the very, very least of your issues; especially if there's any traffic or curbs or obstacles around you.
-And as for dirt/rocks. That's what a filter is for. I cant say that i've had anything fly past my filter.
The whole "straw" effect is a misnomer. You'd hafta run into a puddle large enough to completely submerge the air dam and FTRA inlet. hitting a puddle that big would dramamtically cause you to slow down, and you would instantly lose the vacuum effect. You cant drive (or at least shouldn't be driving) your car fast enough for water to A) jump 2 or more feet vertically and then B) completely saturate the filter and THEN C) turn 90* and shove itself through the MAF screen, bellows, and TB into your intake. And if you are driving fast enough for that to happen, driving that fast into a puddle large enough to cause that to happen is the very, very least of your issues; especially if there's any traffic or curbs or obstacles around you.
-And as for dirt/rocks. That's what a filter is for. I cant say that i've had anything fly past my filter.
Great summary! It takes a rare set of circumstances for your motor to be damaged and a VERY deep puddle that would immerse the bottom of the kid. Keep in mind that ONLY our kit also includes a block off plate that you can put on to disable the kit if you think you will be driving in some horrible storm. With the block off plate installed, water cannot come up through the duct and your car breathes exactly the same as stock.