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Old 07-08-2008, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by heymoej
i have a heads cam car that went 11.89 @ 118 & 1.88 60' with a ls6 intake & dyno tune on new nitto dr. & stock suspension.......

we put on a fast 92-92,bmr suspension,new et streets & went 11.08 @ 121 & 1.48 60' untuned ............

now lets brake it down sum what.......

11.89 - 11.08 = 8.1 tenth faster in the 1/4 with the fast 92,et streets & bmr...so were does the credit go???????

the bmr suspension & et streets over the stock suspension & nitto are an easy comparison in 60' 1.88 - 1.48 = 4/10s of a second faster in the 1/4

so that leaves us with 4.1 tenth & 3 mph faster for the fast 92/92 setup over the ls6 intake??????????

is my thinking flawed????????
Exactly. Track times don't lie I hate people that talk about dyno# like they mean everything. The time in my sig was with 310 rwhp. Dyno numbers don't mean ****. Full weight, factory stock suspension, stock motor!
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Originally Posted by heymoej
i have a heads cam car that went 11.89 @ 118 & 1.88 60' with a ls6 intake & dyno tune on new nitto dr. & stock suspension.......

we put on a fast 92-92,bmr suspension,new et streets & went 11.08 @ 121 & 1.48 60' untuned ............

now lets brake it down sum what.......

11.89 - 11.08 = 8.1 tenth faster in the 1/4 with the fast 92,et streets & bmr...so were does the credit go???????

the bmr suspension & et streets over the stock suspension & nitto are an easy comparison in 60' 1.88 - 1.48 = 4/10s of a second faster in the 1/4

so that leaves us with 4.1 tenth & 3 mph faster for the fast 92/92 setup over the ls6 intake??????????

is my thinking flawed????????
that's a nice comparision and all and pretty well broken down... but what are you trying to prove?.... who cares about something we all know about

did you honestly think you were gonna come below or equal to your previous runs with the additions of those mods?
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
that's a nice comparision and all and pretty well broken down... but what are you trying to prove?.... who cares about something we all know about

did you honestly think you were gonna come below or equal to your previous runs with the additions of those mods?
not very well broken down at all really, do a search and school yourselfs on how much a tenth off your 60' picks you up ET wise. very few cars ever(not saying it dont happen, but rarely) only pick up a 1/1 ratio. 1.5-2 tenths in the 1/4 are very common from every 1 tenth off your 60'. if you cant get it out the hole, you cant et for ****. get the short times down and a not so powerful car can become a very quick ET car.
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
that's a nice comparision and all and pretty well broken down... but what are you trying to prove?.... who cares about something we all know about

did you honestly think you were gonna come below or equal to your previous runs with the additions of those mods?
i thought 8 tenths was a good gain for the mods? same temps @ the same track & thats why i put it out there for a real world comparison........
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Originally Posted by gold98Z28
not very well broken down at all really, do a search and school yourselfs on how much a tenth off your 60' picks you up ET wise. very few cars ever(not saying it dont happen, but rarely) only pick up a 1/1 ratio. 1.5-2 tenths in the 1/4 are very common from every 1 tenth off your 60'. if you cant get it out the hole, you cant et for ****. get the short times down and a not so powerful car can become a very quick ET car.
is my thinking flawed????????

i knew there was something like that out there,
so brake it down for me.....i gained 8.1 tenth & went from 1.88 to 1.48 60', thats 4 tenths there, were & HOW did i gain the other 4.1 tenths & 3 mph?

let me know what you come up with,if the fast does not deserve the credit i do not want to give it to it
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I would only credit the fast for about .3 and only due to the 3mph pick up (3mph at your ET is typically .2 to .3 in ET) I would credit your 60' for the other .5 or so you gained. The rumor is every .1 you cut on your 60' is .15 - .2 off you ET. Now, I don't believe that. With my truck, every .1 I cut off my ET equated out closer to .12 - .125 keeping the same mph. Every vehicle is different and only back to back tests for that vehicle will give you solid answers.
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Originally Posted by LIL SS
I would only credit the fast for about .3 and only due to the 3mph pick up (3mph at your ET is typically .2 to .3 in ET) I would credit your 60' for the other .5 or so you gained. The rumor is every .1 you cut on your 60' is .15 - .2 off you ET. Now, I don't believe that. With my truck, every .1 I cut off my ET equated out closer to .12 - .125 keeping the same mph. Every vehicle is different and only back to back tests for that vehicle will give you solid answers.
cool..thanx!
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Originally Posted by LIL SS
I would only credit the fast for about .3 and only due to the 3mph pick up (3mph at your ET is typically .2 to .3 in ET) I would credit your 60' for the other .5 or so you gained. The rumor is every .1 you cut on your 60' is .15 - .2 off you ET. Now, I don't believe that. With my truck, every .1 I cut off my ET equated out closer to .12 - .125 keeping the same mph. Every vehicle is different and only back to back tests for that vehicle will give you solid answers.
i find that very easy to believe with your truck, since the arodynamic drag of a big *** brick(ie truck)and extra weight hurting power on the big end would deffinatly have an effect. like i said that rule of thumb is not set in stone but "most" cars pick up considerable more on the big end. and you are probably dead on with the .2-.3 and most the mph being from the intake
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Gold,

That big *** heavy truck is probably a lot lighter than you think

Also, just curious, what's your 1/8 mph and 1/4 mph. Curious to know if we are on par with what the last half track mph gain is.
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Ok I couldn't stay out of this one. No ones claiming that the LS6 intake is superior to the LSX. Look at it from this point of view.

LS6 intake $550 (new not used). 10 RWHP gain over LS1.
That's $55 for each RWHP.

FAST 90/90mm tb $1200. 18 RWHP gain. That's $66.66 for each RWHP.

Bang for the buck the LS6 is a better value.

Now everyone's car is different and will net different gains some a little more some a little less. And what everyones expectations of their car is different. If your going to go with a big cam and heads, then hell yea if you have the money buy the LSX hands down. But if your gonna stay smaller cam NO heads or just bolt ons the LS6 will do just fine. It's been proven time and time again, that's why fast even made the 78mm to compete with the LS6, just was a little too pricey. Everyones setup is different, if everyone had the same old mods well than this would be a pretty boring forum.
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Originally Posted by LIL SS
Gold,

That big *** heavy truck is probably a lot lighter than you think

Also, just curious, what's your 1/8 mph and 1/4 mph. Curious to know if we are on par with what the last half track mph gain is.
yeah it might be, i bet its still alittle on the heavy side. i trap 92-93 in the 1/8 and about 119 in the 1/4. tho i hardly ever get to run 1/4 since the closest one is almost 3hrs from here and i have to pass two nicer 1/8th miles to get there.lol
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So a 26mph pick up?? That's a tad better than my 23mph pick up.. NA it's 88-89 and 113.. Truck is 3,900 all steel. I'm thinking I'll have it down to a light weight 3,500 by end of summer..
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yeah, thats NA. it mph's hard on the bottle but always breaks somethin,lol (tq arm, posi's,driveshafts,axle's,clutch and bell housing right now.lol)

boy we sure have whored this thread all to hell.............. oh well the op never put up graphs for us to see anyway.lol
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I'm gonna get u a graph on tuesday after my car is tuned by one of the board sponsors.

Mods are 90/90 w/ ARH 1.75 LT's.
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Originally Posted by sidewayz28
wow! somone who makes sense!!
CHOCO open your fuggin eyes and try not to act like a 12 year old girl.
you REALLY think a 224/224 cam can out perform something like a 230/230 cam? same motor, just cam swaps... what do you think will constantly run better times
i think i got the answer to that



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