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Old 10-31-2008 | 02:20 PM
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^ No, he moved the pistons...

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Ok, scratch milling the junk head. I just got off the phone with Jason at Texas Speed. He said they mill 0.040 off the heads to get a 59cc chamber. So my measuring technique was pretty much right on. But, he did say that he does things a bit different. He uses an unmilled head, and no head gasket. On LS1s the piston comes out of the bore slightly. He suggested bolting the unmilled head on the block, and then rotating the piston around till it pushes up against the head. This will keep the piston in a positive position, and you don't need to worry about getting TDC, since ti will automatically be pretty much there. This will also keep the piston preloaded, and prevent it from rocking and chattering when cutting the reliefs. I think I'll use that method instead.
This is a good write up, but you made the first part way too complicated. You can also use the base idea that roughly milling .007 = -1cc of combustion chamber size.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg

This is a good write up, but you made the first part way too complicated. You can also use the base idea that roughly milling .007 = -1cc of combustion chamber size.
I agree, I did make it too complicated. I was thinking about rewriting it all to make a single clear post as a tutorial.

Just to be clear, cutting 0.007" of reliefs is NOT -1cc. I think you're talking about milling the heads. I'd venture to say that my reliefs are 1cc with both intake and exhuast added together.

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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
This is a good write up, but you made the first part way too complicated. You can also use the base idea that roughly milling .007 = -1cc of combustion chamber size.
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I agree, I did make it too complicated. I was thinking about rewriting it all to make a single clear post as a tutorial.

Just to be clear, cutting 0.007" of reliefs is NOT -1cc. I think you're talking about milling the heads. I'd venture to say that my reliefs are 1cc with both intake and exhuast added together.
Yeah, I was talking about the heads. I think you did a great job either way.
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awesome write-up thanks!
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Yes, thanks for the thread!

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Just to put this out there. I think your 0.003" depth difference may be due to the tape? I am not sure how thick/thin that material is, but it seemed consistent on the exhaust/intake with what you cut and what you gained as far as PTV clearance.
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Wow that was WAY too complicated!
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great thread always wondered how it was done
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yeah a little over the top but I am the same way...nice thread to bring back
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Very nice info what whp did this set up make?
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487/435. If you search my name you'll find the graph somewhere.
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Hey can you put it on a cd and sell it for like 19.95 just kiddin nice job all most to much info but very nice job
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Necro-post, I know, but this really is a good write up and is about to help me TREMENDOUSLY... Possibly others about to take the "plunge"
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Real nice job! I always wondered how it was dne pretty cool tool for sure little bit nerve rackin for the first time I'm sure!
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My question there is putting the junk head on the block without a gasket: how much of a risk is it to scratch up the deck of the block?

My Lindy tool will be here this week. And I'll be doing the same... just on an engine stand, because you can't really do this in an F-Body unless you are insane or small enough to sit in the engine bay.
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I think you'd have to literally DRAG the head against the surface. I'm running studs, and they don't have to come out for head swaps, so I'm covered in that department...
Old 04-08-2014 | 11:37 PM
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you are my hero on this, i dont care if its "to complicated" or not. you provided me with some much needed insight on this project, and a lot more on how it works than just how to do it.

You must be an engineer
Old 04-09-2014 | 03:04 AM
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Necro aside if you troll the forums Kevin hangs out on he has the ability to over engineer and over document (that a bad thing?) everything he does. HAS to have some OCD. There are quite a few posts of his on rx7club and norotors.

He was one of the first guys to document how to fit a 315 tire on a stock body RX without anything more that rolling the fender lip and some suspension parts almost everyone has anyway.
Old 01-31-2016 | 10:06 AM
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SUBSCRIBING incase I need this with my head swap.
Old 01-31-2016 | 07:23 PM
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Great info and pictures.

You honestly helped me decide that I do NOT want to deal with flycutting at any cost. I tip my hat to you for doing that yourself Sir!




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