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I'll have to see if I can dig up the old sheets on the cam only 3600 stall, 3.73 gear, mostly full weight TA that was running 11.4's. Never tried it with a higher stall or some lighting. Is the Chris' et's what your basing the cam off of as being the best cam only cam?
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I'll have to see if I can dig up the old sheets on the cam only 3600 stall, 3.73 gear, mostly full weight TA that was running 11.4's. Never tried it with a higher stall or some lighting. Is the Chris' et's what your basing the cam off of as being the best cam only cam?
All Around cams are like TR224, TSP 228r etc... meaning you have a broad powerband that supplies you with plenty everywhere in the range.
Again this is IMO, others may think otherwise, thhat is what opinion is all about.
230 230 612 592 111+2 El Torro(Pred-Z)XFI/XER
231 234 643 598 111 Torquer3 LSK/XER
231 239 617 624 113 Comp Cams LSR
235 240 655 609 111 Tsunami TSP/XER
235 243 621 624 113 Comp Cam LSR
236 236 615 602 111 Torro's Big Bro.(Pred-Z)XFI/XER
Car is DD A4 4000stall with 3.23 gears. Will be adding Fast92/92 and all supporting boltons.
231 234 643 598 111 Torquer3 LSK/XER
231 239 617 624 113 Comp Cams LSR
235 240 655 609 111 Tsunami TSP/XER
235 243 621 624 113 Comp Cam LSR
236 236 615 602 111 Torro's Big Bro.(Pred-Z)XFI/XER
Car is DD A4 4000stall with 3.23 gears. Will be adding Fast92/92 and all supporting boltons.
I'd have to say none of the above for a DD on stock heads. Do you have aftermarket heads or @ least springs? Talk to your builder, but I'd say somewhere in the 224, .560, 114 & a set of 3.93 gears on stock heads. If you have aftermarket heads &/or a set of upgraded valve springs, then I'd vote for the 230/230, .612/.592 & a 3.93 gear. You will need the FAST intake & to spin up to 7K in order to get the full benefit of this set up.
I'd have to say none of the above for a DD on stock heads. Do you have aftermarket heads or @ least springs? Talk to your builder, but I'd say somewhere in the 224, .560, 114 & a set of 3.93 gears on stock heads. If you have aftermarket heads &/or a set of upgraded valve springs, then I'd vote for the 230/230, .612/.592 & a 3.93 gear. You will need the FAST intake & to spin up to 7K in order to get the full benefit of this set up.
Never said that his gears were an issue, only that he would benefit from 3.93's. Also...never said that an LS6 intake was a problem. I said that a Fast & spinning up to 7K on the 230 set up would allow him to get the full benefit. Just because you spin up to 6800 through your LS6 intake, does not mean that your set up is ideal. The same is true for your gearing. My statement is correct. He should not use that cam on stock heads because the springs are not sufficient for the valve lift. The Fast & 7K will allow the full benefit of the cam.
I think you read what you wanted to hear so that you could jump in w/ an argument.
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Chris do you have any idle clips of your car? I was thinking of doing a 224ish xfi cam as I have read reports on people still being able to get decent gas mileage with 224ish cams. Any idea about a 230ish duration cam being the difference between daily driver versus being to obnoxious and bad mileage? Would this 230/230 cam be better for a daily driver with a m6 on a 113 LSA?
Never said that his gears were an issue, only that he would benefit from 3.93's. Also...never said that an LS6 intake was a problem. I said that a Fast & spinning up to 7K on the 230 set up would allow him to get the full benefit. Just because you spin up to 6800 through your LS6 intake, does not mean that your set up is ideal. The same is true for your gearing. My statement is correct. He should not use that cam on stock heads because the springs are not sufficient for the valve lift. The Fast & 7K will allow the full benefit of the cam.
I think you read what you wanted to hear so that you could jump in w/ an argument.
I think you read what you wanted to hear so that you could jump in w/ an argument.
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I daily drive my car because its a fun car and has good power. I always knew that these cars get decent gas mileage. I get about 20 mpg in town right now and 26 or so on the highway. Gas mileage is not my main concern but if it went from 20 mpg to 10 mpg in town than it would no longer be my daily driver. No i didn't buy a v8 for good gas mileage but my car gets decent mileage. I've ready about people with 224 114lsa and 228 114 lsa cams that are still knocking down great gas mileage. I just wanted to know if a cam on a 111 lsa is going to kill mileage.
you can say that for any cam...gears will help so will a fast...that is a no brainer...also dropping 200lbs will maximize your setup too, so will getting a spool, so will getting the axles gun drilled, drag brakes too...i know i am being an *** now but you get my point...every cam can benefit from gears and a fast 90/90, not just the 230/230 cam...so it has no relevance
oh yea, back to the cam talk, LOL. 
...she is cool about it though
Shawn builds engines all day long and knows the reality of cam choices.
No disrespect to anyone but throwing up cam choices with a range of duration from 230-236 is kind of like grasping for straws and pointless.
Why not just go to Comp and drop the whole cam menu on the list?
We are lucky on this site though, just about everyone and their brother is a cam expert
Not everyone has the luxury of being an engine builder and knowing how a degree in duration or a diff lobe grind will affect an engine combo. Ask one guy and he will tell you 230 is to big for a dd. Another will tell you that 236 is ok for the street. The beauty of the site is getting differnt opinions from different people....but we all know that sometimes opinions are like ********, everybdy has one, some just stink more than others.
Thanks to everyone who was kind enough to share their personal experience with different cam choices.
Thanks to everyone who was kind enough to share their personal experience with different cam choices.
Not everyone has the luxury of being an engine builder and knowing how a degree in duration or a diff lobe grind will affect an engine combo. Ask one guy and he will tell you 230 is to big for a dd. Another will tell you that 236 is ok for the street. The beauty of the site is getting differnt opinions from different people....but we all know that sometimes opinions are like ********, everybdy has one, some just stink more than others.
Thanks to everyone who was kind enough to share their personal experience with different cam choices.
Thanks to everyone who was kind enough to share their personal experience with different cam choices.
Thats exactly why you should talk to a builder. They know the reality of your choice and can guide you properly.
Your right one mans gold mine is another mans trash pile. So talking to someone who does it all day long is a good way to get informed/learn the differences of your choices. Guys like Shawn at Virginia Speed, TSP, Speed Inc, EPP, Myself, HKE, and a whole host of others (sorry those the rest not mentioned) do this for a living.
Its nice that people throw a vote in for what they did but its not very often that they discuss the negatives. OR maybe even know what other cams do because this is the only one they've ever had and dont know the differences.
Compression and cam size are not bragging rights, but they are treated this way on this site sometimes.
Talk to a shop and get a good view of what your looking at. Seriously a 230 cam is much different than a 236 cam and both are on the semi big side (IMO) for a daily driver. Your looking at a power range of 3500 rpms and beyond (any appreciable power).
Then look at the results of the cam they recommended in the dyno section to see the power range of the cam. If thats what you want then you go with it. OR post up and say hey this is the cam that was recommended.. anyone have it? Because your right asking if its the right cam will put you back to sqaure one.
Thats the best advice I can give. Dont get frustrated, it's all a learning experience. But you need to talk to the right people. No disrespect to anyone more often than not these kinds of threads are not the best way to do it.
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I vote El Torro cause thats what im going with when i get my next LSGun next summer. even stock 3.42's(M6) should be Fine according to Pred-Z and if i felt like i wanted more then i'll just switch gears! but that cam should make mad TQ and very good power cam only as is with bolt-ons. and im gonna add Stock 243's for a lil bump in power and compression ...should be good for about 415-425 rwhp tuned...more then enough for me for a street only M6 F-body still tryin to decide if im going with the LS6 intake or matching 96/96 Typhoon Intake system hmmmmm.........
still tryin to decide if im going with the LS6 intake or matching 96/96 Typhoon Intake system hmmmmm......... Last edited by Transgression; Nov 27, 2008 at 09:39 PM.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Seriously a 230 cam is much different than a 236 cam and both are on the semi big side (IMO) for a daily driver. Your looking at a power range of 3500 rpms and beyond (any appreciable power).
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