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230/230 612/592 111+2 El Torro(Pred-Z) XFI/XER
35.94%
231/234 643/598 111 Torquer3 LSK/XER
19.53%
231/239 617/624 113 Comp Cams LSR
15.63%
235/240 655/609 111 Tsunami TSP/XER
7.81%
235/243 621/624 113 Comp Cams LSR
9.38%
236/236 615/602 111 Torro's Big Bro.(Pred-Z) XFI/XER
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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230 230 612 592 111+2 El Torro(Pred-Z)XFI/XER
231 234 643 598 111 Torquer3 LSK/XER
231 239 617 624 113 Comp Cams LSR
235 240 655 609 111 Tsunami TSP/XER
235 243 621 624 113 Comp Cam LSR
236 236 615 602 111 Torro's Big Bro.(Pred-Z)XFI/XER

Car is DD A4 4000stall with 3.23 gears. Will be adding Fast92/92 and all supporting boltons.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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what are your goals?
pure strip?
pure street?
both?
auto x?
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Daily Diven Sreet/Strip
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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You have a pretty broad range there. I voted for a Tv3 for a DD. You could also go with a Tv2 if you didn't want as high of a lift. That's the only cam I've run so far but I like it and wouldn't want to go any bigger for a DD or semi DD.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Well I started out really liking the 230/230 cam but I know that once I get my truck running again I will more than likely park the car except for weekends. It may be next year before I do that though. I just don't want get it and then wish I had went with something more aggressive.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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None of the above, I would prefer a cam in the mid 220's.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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none of the above,custom grind will work best for you,shoot me a pm and i'll hook you up
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el torro or el torro big brother...look in sig for reasons why...especially the 60ft...
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Chris, When you gonna slap some heads on that thing?
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Chris, When you gonna slap some heads on that thing?
haha maybe this winter we will see, with a 90/90 too...might not be till later though cause i am buying a house...
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uh oh get ready to stop modding the car. j/jk. That's why it's taken me so long to start modding mine. Damn mortagage.
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I chose the Torquer 3
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anyone have anymore results on the El Torro cam? Chris has some damn good results.
Not trying to hijack
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Regarding "El Torro" 230/230 111 LSA cam

Chris knows what he is doing and is paying careful attention to details to support that cam. What details would you ask: well degreing the cam, he has a custom ram air, proper suspention geometry and supporting mods.
Duplicate his exact setup and you'll get the same results.
That cam is good for 60>70rwhp and a very flat broad torque curve.

Guys, there is no such thing as a "magic" cam, there is what is called a properly well balanced COMBO. That requires proper build protocol and professional tuning.

IMO, this cam is the new best ALL AROUND 346ci cam only, it has it all for street/strip players. It is not "the max effort most Hp producing cam", but those require more supporting mods to work as well or a lot of weight removal. If Chris would remove another 200>250 lbs, he would be in mid 10s with good air; 350lbs and he will be in the top 5 cam only in the country. All of this while cruising gently on sunday afternoon with the babe.
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yup i agree completely drove to the track 40 minutes each way...also predator i am still on my stock ls6 intake and stock ported tb...with 3.23 gears too boot...waiting till i need the 12 bolt before the gear swap...so i actually have a little left on the table, even EWP if you wanna go crazy...

most max effort hp cams need 4.10s or higher...just something to think about
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Anyone actually running "El Torro's Big Brother?"
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Regarding "El Torro" 230/230 111 LSA cam

Chris knows what he is doing and is paying careful attention to details to support that cam. What details would you ask: well degreing the cam, he has a custom ram air, proper suspention geometry and supporting mods.
Duplicate his exact setup and you'll get the same results.
That cam is good for 60>70rwhp and a very flat broad torque curve.

Guys, there is no such thing as a "magic" cam, there is what is called a properly well balanced COMBO. That requires proper build protocol and professional tuning.

IMO, this cam is the new best ALL AROUND 346ci cam only, it has it all for street/strip players. It is not "the max effort most Hp producing cam", but those require more supporting mods to work as well or a lot of weight removal. If Chris would remove another 200>250 lbs, he would be in mid 10s with good air; 350lbs and he will be in the top 5 cam only in the country. All of this while cruising gently on sunday afternoon with the babe.

I've seen some cams that claim to be "magic".


And best ALL AROUND 346ci cam is a pretty big statement.
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I've seen some cams that claim to be "magic".


And best ALL AROUND 346ci cam is a pretty big statement.
It is a proven statement, and best to date. The tech cogs are turning relentlessly and new grinds popping all the time.
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Chris do you have any idle clips of your car? I was thinking of doing a 224ish xfi cam as I have read reports on people still being able to get decent gas mileage with 224ish cams. Any idea about a 230ish duration cam being the difference between daily driver versus being to obnoxious and bad mileage? Would this 230/230 cam be better for a daily driver with a m6 on a 113 LSA?
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Originally Posted by Nitroused383
Chris do you have any idle clips of your car? I was thinking of doing a 224ish xfi cam as I have read reports on people still being able to get decent gas mileage with 224ish cams. Any idea about a 230ish duration cam being the difference between daily driver versus being to obnoxious and bad mileage? Would this 230/230 cam be better for a daily driver with a m6 on a 113 LSA?
i would just leave the car SI if you are worried about gas mileage...mine dropped probably 5mpg after the cam plus my 4000 stall..dunno how it would be in a m6 though...

it is definitely a strong cam and works great in a daily driver, i highly recommend it but if you are worried about MPG i would just do bolt ons and stay away from the heads and cam...think about why a cam gives more hp..more fuel and air...

here is the vidle clip though a slightly leaking cutout...they never seal 100%

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