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Old 12-01-2008, 01:49 PM
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Don't trust your nose (or a tuner's) to dial in your A/F ratio. I understand widebands being out of service, so this is in no way a shot at your tuner BTW. But we hear it all the time that a car smells rich and a customer wants a re-tune. I assume you're running off-road pipes. It's going to smell gaseous with the overlap you're running and no cats!
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
Don't trust your nose (or a tuner's) to dial in your A/F ratio. I understand widebands being out of service, so this is in no way a shot at your tuner BTW. But we hear it all the time that a car smells rich and a customer wants a re-tune. I assume you're running off-road pipes. It's going to smell gaseous with the overlap you're running and no cats!
Well, it definately does.

I didn't pay full price due to the a/f being out, but I definately want it re-tuned with a working wideband, and I am going to change plugs before I get it done, we'll see where it stands after that.

It might be a few weeks, finals week is coming up and I've got a ton of work to do.
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im curious too. id do some data loogging first with reg fuel, then with some race fuel. kr or det. will both kill power. it is quite a bit low on power.
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Put some TR6s in it on Saturday, now I just gotta get it tuned and put a mix in it. Still runs the same after the plug change.
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Fuel probably has a lot to do with it. Take it over to LMR for the tune. They did a good job on my car, and it's a 98... I plan on taking it back with the new setup I'm building. I've heard their dyno reads a little lower than some in the area, but it works very well for tuning.
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Originally Posted by TXMaro
Fuel probably has a lot to do with it. Take it over to LMR for the tune. They did a good job on my car, and it's a 98... I plan on taking it back with the new setup I'm building. I've heard their dyno reads a little lower than some in the area, but it works very well for tuning.
I doubt it's fuel. My fuel system is more than enough for the mods. They sell race fuel there so I will probably put a few gallons in and have Joe tune on it.
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if you wanna play with cams I have a long duration/mid lift cam you can play with for a small amount ... similar to a Trex killer but a bit more duration.
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I meant fuel octane, not lack of fuel.
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The cam is probably not the problem unless it's at some funky intake centerline. I'd highly recommend taking your car to a reputable tuner, one who has a load-bearing chassis dyno and make sure you put the wide-band O2 sensor in a bung just after your headers vs in the tailpipe. You'll get a much more reliable reading. I've seen some really jacked up tunes coming out of Houston that had terrible air/fuel ratios.
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haha. wow that tuner must KNOW HIS ****.

and i bet you signed off a waiver saying if the motor popped on his dyno he would not be held liable?
that tuner is a CHUMP
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Sadly there's only a few shops that have good tuners in the Houston area. For me personally I feel that I don't really have any other options than learning to do it myself.
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Are you sure you don't have a dead coil? That would give you a 50-60hp increase. Check each plug with a timing light to see if there all firing.
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Originally Posted by sidewayz28
haha. wow that tuner must KNOW HIS ****.

and i bet you signed off a waiver saying if the motor popped on his dyno he would not be held liable?
that tuner is a CHUMP
Wow, what a mature post.

No, I didn't have to sign any waiver. The guy who tuned my car has tuned it 3 or 4 times before and I have had zero issues. The air fuel reading was not working on the dyno that we used, and he would gladly redo the tune for me on a dyno where everything is working correctly.

I doubt it is a dead coil. I would think that would be pretty easy to hear that something was wrong.
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Originally Posted by ZFSix

I doubt it is a dead coil. I would think that would be pretty easy to hear that something was wrong.

I've had a car on the dyno before making close to 600 then dropped a coil lost 80rwhp instantly. Should no signs in the data logs and you can not hear anything. Car still ran and idled - a little rough but wasn't blatantly obvious that a coil failed.
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Just bring it by when you get a chance. I will take a closer look at it. Sometime I like a challenge.
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Originally Posted by GoldRust
Just bring it by when you get a chance. I will take a closer look at it. Sometime I like a challenge.
Yeah I will for sure. I just sold the wheels off of it so it is sitting on jack stands right now... waiting on the new set.
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Originally Posted by ZFSix
Wow, what a mature post.

No, I didn't have to sign any waiver. The guy who tuned my car has tuned it 3 or 4 times before and I have had zero issues. The air fuel reading was not working on the dyno that we used, and he would gladly redo the tune for me on a dyno where everything is working correctly.

I doubt it is a dead coil. I would think that would be pretty easy to hear that something was wrong.
i try, good luck with the tune
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ok update i purchased the car. has a new spec 3+ clutch and got tuned put 407hp and 393tq. Now the search continues
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Originally Posted by SStock02
ok update i purchased the car. has a new spec 3+ clutch and got tuned put 407hp and 393tq. Now the search continues
you did get a nice car there. somethings up for sure, he was making more power with the stock ls1 as a cam only with the mega death cam from hpe.
very clean car though.
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Originally Posted by SStock02
ok update i purchased the car. has a new spec 3+ clutch and got tuned put 407hp and 393tq. Now the search continues
So this is your car now? Who tuned it, the same place? Keep us updated on what you find and good luck because there is a LOT of power missing still.


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