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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Hi Everyone, I dont post to often, but I use the Search a lot.



So Far So Good, right now I am trying to get the balancer bolt out, it seems tight as heck, and I don't want to break it. So I sprayed a little PB Blaster on it while I have some lunch. So far I have only used like 5 different tools to get this far into it. Turning out to be pretty fun. Hopefully my lifter tools get here today. Using all of the great info I have gleaned off of here is helping alot.

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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I used a breaker bar with a 3' peice of pipe on it to get mine loose. It is on there really, really tight!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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...my lead pipe extention was 5 feet long!!!! and I still had trouble getting that bolt off....

...make sure you buy a longer bolt when you re-install the pulley....buy it a auto zone...

...use the new longer bolt to "start" the pulley onto the crank....after you have it on about 2/3rds....pull it and install a brand new GM tork-to-yield crank bolt....

....oh yeh, dont tighten the timing cover bolts untill you have the crank pulley installed....this helps to center the cover so the seal does not leak...
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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Oh come on! It's not that hard to get off with a breaker bar...

With a 5 foot bar it should come off by barely laying your hand on it!

Tommy
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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yeah, I used the handle extension from my 3 1/2 floor jack and it takes a couple tugs, but once it's broken free you can back it out by hand. I was surprised to see how few tools you really need to do a cam swap. Good luck!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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Just apply even steady pressure and don't be afraid to get some turn on it. It'll come loose. It may look like the whole engine is gonna turn...don't worry.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Very Important:

If you don’t have a 24mm 6 point 1/2” drive socket; go buy one. DON’T use a 12 point socket on your crank pulley bolt. It does not grab enough meat on the bolt head, and may round off the head as you are trying to remove the ‘Super Tight’ crank bolt. If this happens; YOU WILL have more problems than you would ever want to deal with!!

Sears sells this socket in a deep-well version made for an impact wrench. This is the best one to get. The impact socket is much stronger than a regular socket and will not distort.

Ron,
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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eat your wheaties!!!!!! just kidding

i used a 3ft breaker bar, and some muscle, keep at it, eventually it will budge....also, make sure you have the right socket, like mentioned above

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You can also take the old crank bolt and cut the flanges off the side of the top part and then it will go in farther.
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I used 1/4" tubing for a lifter tool worked like a charm.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VortechC5
I used a breaker bar with a 3' peice of pipe on it to get mine loose. It is on there really, really tight!
same hear
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mcflyz28
I used 1/4" tubing for a lifter tool worked like a charm.
I wanna say we used 1/8" steel rod with velcro wrapped around it. the $1.00 lifter tool that worked perfectly. Maybe steve will jump in here and remember the exact specs of it.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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I went ahead and ground down the old bolt, and pulled the pulley out around it...worked great. Ya I had to use like a 4' piece of pipe to break it loose. I was promised I would have the cam tool today, if not then I'll proabobly use a steel rod, well now I'm off to change the valvesprings.

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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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valve springs.........

sounds fun

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 06:58 AM
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Ummmm how did you get the rest of the bolt out????
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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What kind of tubing are you all talking about? Just wondering as I am starting my cam, valve spring and header install next week. I do not have enough pen magnets but may just use the air compressor when doing valve springs.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpmaro
Ummmm how did you get the rest of the bolt out????
I only ground down the part that contacts the balancer, then you can screw it all the way in the block, so there is absolutely no way you will strip out the crank threads while pulling the pulley off.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by apexman
What kind of tubing are you all talking about? Just wondering as I am starting my cam, valve spring and header install next week. I do not have enough pen magnets but may just use the air compressor when doing valve springs.

Derek

They are talking about using a 1/8" piece of steel rod with a strip of velcro running along it lengthwise, stick 2 of these rods in the front of the block, and you basically have a homemade lifter tool(does the same thing as the 80$ JPR tool, wich I was silly enough to get.

Hope this helps,

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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A chain wrench works great to keep the crank from turning while removing the bolt. I duct taped a piece of pipe to the breaker bar. It was 4' long overall and the crank bolt came out with ease.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Ok.. I see what you're sayin Heavy Metal, Makes good sense... And apexman. As far as springs, I'd use the TDC method of swapping them and the 1/8" steel rod method for the lifters. Both are much more reliable than pen magnets and an air compressor.
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