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help!! just installed a ms3, oil pump, timing chain, tuned by tsp

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Old 06-07-2009, 11:47 AM
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Exclamation help!! just installed a ms3, oil pump, timing chain, tuned by tsp

at times its hard to start, it cranks and cranks then it starts when it start the idle jumps up and down after a while it stops,
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Need many more details. Does it misfire any? How does it run going down the road? Was it a mail order tune or was it dyno tuned?
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Originally Posted by 5.3litre
Need many more details. Does it misfire any? How does it run going down the road? Was it a mail order tune or was it dyno tuned?
no misfire, 2 front o2s r sitting off a code, it runs good, it was mailed in
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you should try talking to tsp first if they tuned it. Give them the chance to make it right.
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Originally Posted by bad98camaro
no misfire, 2 front o2s r sitting off a code, it runs good, it was mailed in
There's your problem probaly. It's a mail tune. Yea i would talk to tsp or why not just take it to a local shop and have it dyno tuned?
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Get it street or dyno tuned by someone local. No mail ins.
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No matter the shop mail ins are usually just enough to get your car started. No more. As others have said get someone local with EFIlive or HPtuners on their lap-top to tune it or take it to a performance shop and have it dyno tuned there.
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I'll check out nelson performance they have HPtuners
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is it just hard to start when its hot or all the time?
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Originally Posted by LS199CAMAROZ28
is it just hard to start when its hot or all the time?
some times after it dies out
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my ms3 is hard to start when its hot due to iat sensor heat soaking. sounds like you need to adjust the throttle blade alittle to get your iac back in range. cant really do that without any tuning software though. as many ms3 cars as TSP has tuned i'm sure the mail order is close but there are certain drivability issues that are better dealt with in person.
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Originally Posted by LS199CAMAROZ28
my ms3 is hard to start when its hot due to iat sensor heat soaking. sounds like you need to adjust the throttle blade alittle to get your iac back in range. cant really do that without any tuning software though. as many ms3 cars as TSP has tuned i'm sure the mail order is close but there are certain drivability issues that are better dealt with in person.

i have a 85mm bbk throttle body. it ildes about 800 to 900
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Dont do any adjusting on your throttle body, i have a ms3 in my car and a mail order tune from TSP and it does the same thing, the tune sucks, but i knew it would. It is just tempotary until i get my motor broke in to do a dyno tune. A hand held programmer is a waste of time and money. GET A DYNO TUNE BY A PROFESSIONAL! you will regret doing anything else.
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Originally Posted by Cape T/A
Dont do any adjusting on your throttle body, i have a ms3 in my car and a mail order tune from TSP and it does the same thing, the tune sucks, but i knew it would. It is just tempotary until i get my motor broke in to do a dyno tune. A hand held programmer is a waste of time and money. GET A DYNO TUNE BY A PROFESSIONAL! you will regret doing anything else.
Me three, have to give it a little throttle when hot to start. Getting a dyno tune as soon as my motor is broken in
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I know that TSP can tune cars because they have done plenty of them before. However when they tuned my car and it was horrible to drive and I have a little vrx2. I contacted Ron at vengenace and mike hooked my up with a mail order tune that was about 95% dead on. Keep in mind that my car was dyno tuned by Jason at TSP. I am not talking bad about there shop just my experience.

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drive it up to tsp and just let them tune it...
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is it ok to run it at the track. what # will it run at the track


mods on car
ms3 long tube headers ls6 intake k&n cold air intake 85mm throttle body slp loud mouth 3000 stall level 3 from performabuilt trans
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I wouldn't run a car full throttle with that amount of mods without a dyno tune. Thats just not worth it to me to risk damage to the engine.
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Originally Posted by Cape T/A
I wouldn't run a car full throttle with that amount of mods without a dyno tune. Thats just not worth it to me to risk damage to the engine.
went to the track and ran a 13.054 is that good for what i have on the car. i still need to dyno tune it.
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??? hell,, when my car was stock,, the original owner of the car ran a 13.06 ,,, tune that bad boy up and you'll be tearin it up then!!!




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