Are AFR heads worth the extra $$$$
Are AFR heads worth the extra $$$$ Right now I have a 2002 LS1 with MS3 and the LS6 intake.. Also the normal bolt ons..
Car made 401hp at the wheels..
I am looking at doing a set of heads soon. I was going to do a set of Stage 2.5 5.3 heads from Texas Speed. I think they are around $1300.00
or
Should I go with a set of AFR 205 heads.. I think they are around $2300.00
Are the AFR's worth the extra Grand?? Any guesses on what power each will make??
Thanks
Car made 401hp at the wheels..
I am looking at doing a set of heads soon. I was going to do a set of Stage 2.5 5.3 heads from Texas Speed. I think they are around $1300.00
or
Should I go with a set of AFR 205 heads.. I think they are around $2300.00
Are the AFR's worth the extra Grand?? Any guesses on what power each will make??
Thanks
I just installed my milled AFR 205's with 0.040" cometics and a new cam but no dyno results yet. SOTP is a big improvement obviously but as mentioned it seems like the TFS 215's are making bigger power in general. I would also check the F/S section - I bought my heads w/ 3K miles on them for $1800 including ARP bolts.
I didnt want to go the TFS way due to the extra cost for roller rockers..
I am a little nervous about buying a $2000.00 pair of heads of the For Sale section.. Worried about getting ripped off or getting a set of junk heads..
Thanks
I am a little nervous about buying a $2000.00 pair of heads of the For Sale section.. Worried about getting ripped off or getting a set of junk heads..
Thanks
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Right now I have a 2002 LS1 with MS3 and the LS6 intake.. Also the normal bolt ons..
Car made 401hp at the wheels..
I am looking at doing a set of heads soon. I was going to do a set of Stage 2.5 5.3 heads from Texas Speed. I think they are around $1300.00
or
Should I go with a set of AFR 205 heads.. I think they are around $2300.00
Are the AFR's worth the extra Grand?? Any guesses on what power each will make??
Thanks
Car made 401hp at the wheels..
I am looking at doing a set of heads soon. I was going to do a set of Stage 2.5 5.3 heads from Texas Speed. I think they are around $1300.00
or
Should I go with a set of AFR 205 heads.. I think they are around $2300.00
Are the AFR's worth the extra Grand?? Any guesses on what power each will make??
Thanks
LOL TSP LS6 heads, AFR 205s and TFS 215s all run close to the same track times and mph. The only difference between these heads is the power made on the dyno.
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Not talking about the LS6 heads. I am looking at the 5.3 heads..
I think the LS6 heads have PTV clearence issues..
Will the AFR 205's have any PTV clearence problems with the MS3??
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I think the LS6 heads have PTV clearence issues..
Will the AFR 205's have any PTV clearence problems with the MS3??
Thanks
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Stage 1 and stage 2 LS6 heads W/stock gm mls head gaskets doesnt have PTV issues with the MS3 cam. I had stg 1 LS6 heads with an MS3 and never had an issue, the only problem I had with that combo was running door to door with AFR 205/G5X3 combo'd cars.
why is that a problem?
2300 Dollars is a lot of money on heads, I would have to say no not worth it. Cause If you got them you still would need a Fast 92/92 Setup to flow to those heads and cam. And now we are talking about 3300 investment. And around there in price you can get F/I vortech superchargers.
Why do you need a FAST 90 setup to run AFR heads? I'm not sure I get that. Are you saying that the AFR heads won't flow as well as the 5.3 heads without the FAST...?? The 5.3 heads don't flow as well, so they don't need the FAST?
As for AFR's, they're proven. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either them or the TFS heads, but you've already realized that you'll need rockers with the Trick Flow's, so they're really not the same price. Without recommending either one, here's a good read for you:
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...rt_volume.html
One more thing. Call both companies and talk to them about what you're thinking. Ask them what the pro's and con's are with each head. Seriously. One of them will surely leave you with a bit more confidence about your decision. I've talked via PM with Mamo and he's always been courteous and responsive. He also has a proven build for an LS1 that made 483 RWHP (with a .224/.228 Cam)! That's what I'm going to copy when I build my car. (By the way, that would be another good idea. Find Dyno numbers for MS3 cams and 5.3 heads and see if they are what you're looking for)!
Good luck and regards,
Rossi
As for AFR's, they're proven. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either them or the TFS heads, but you've already realized that you'll need rockers with the Trick Flow's, so they're really not the same price. Without recommending either one, here's a good read for you:
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...rt_volume.html
One more thing. Call both companies and talk to them about what you're thinking. Ask them what the pro's and con's are with each head. Seriously. One of them will surely leave you with a bit more confidence about your decision. I've talked via PM with Mamo and he's always been courteous and responsive. He also has a proven build for an LS1 that made 483 RWHP (with a .224/.228 Cam)! That's what I'm going to copy when I build my car. (By the way, that would be another good idea. Find Dyno numbers for MS3 cams and 5.3 heads and see if they are what you're looking for)!
Good luck and regards,
Rossi
2300 Dollars is a lot of money on heads, I would have to say no not worth it. Cause If you got them you still would need a Fast 92/92 Setup to flow to those heads and cam. And now we are talking about 3300 investment. And around there in price you can get F/I vortech superchargers.
Last edited by Rossi396; Jul 20, 2009 at 09:33 PM.
Why do you need a FAST 90 setup to run AFR heads? I'm not sure I get that. Are you saying that the AFR heads won't flow as well as the 5.3 heads without the FAST...?? The 5.3 heads don't flow as well, so they don't need the FAST?
As for AFR's, they're proven. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either them or the TFS heads, but you've already realized that you'll need rocks with the Trick Flow's, so they're really not the same price. Without recommending wither one, here's a good read for you:
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...rt_volume.html
Regards,
Rossi
As for AFR's, they're proven. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either them or the TFS heads, but you've already realized that you'll need rocks with the Trick Flow's, so they're really not the same price. Without recommending wither one, here's a good read for you:
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...rt_volume.html
Regards,
Rossi
I was implying that if I had a set of AFR Heads I would make sure that I also have the best flowing intake mainfold to feed air to a great Head and Cam. Dont make drama posts
, I am about 500 Engine builds ahead of you. 
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no ignorance. to be honest bro i have no idea either. just the fact that afr have a carb # means they do. i dont think any other aftermarket head has one. i think it has to do with airflow. emission laws are picky. maybe someone else can explain this!!
Dude:
I simply asked a question. It wasn't a drama post. (And I edited my first post). How, specifically, do you know how many engines I've built by the way? You told the guy (in essence) that he had to run a FAST and spend an extra grand to run the AFR's. That's exactly how I read it. If you didn't mean it, just say so and explain yourself without hammering me and telling me how smart you are. I think I gave the guy some good advice....I betcha MY ****** is bigger than YOURS...? WTF...?
Regards,
Rossi
I simply asked a question. It wasn't a drama post. (And I edited my first post). How, specifically, do you know how many engines I've built by the way? You told the guy (in essence) that he had to run a FAST and spend an extra grand to run the AFR's. That's exactly how I read it. If you didn't mean it, just say so and explain yourself without hammering me and telling me how smart you are. I think I gave the guy some good advice....I betcha MY ****** is bigger than YOURS...? WTF...?
Regards,
Rossi
I bought used AFR 205s and yes they are a good head and are worth the money. But I'd buy a set of used TFS 215s and Yella Terra rockers if I went H/C route again.
I bought and sold LOTS of stuff on this site and I feel very comfortable buying used parts from guys on this site.
I bought and sold LOTS of stuff on this site and I feel very comfortable buying used parts from guys on this site.
Numerous items I have bought here to with zero issues.