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Old 10-01-2009, 02:12 PM
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Default Piston to cylinder wall clearance- what can I get away with?

Since I have just about given up on finding a stock LS1 block at a reasonable price, I am contemplating just rebuilding the old block even though it has been honed before. What is the max piston to cylinder wall clearance I can get away with when rebuilding this engine? It is just a little more gap than I was hoping for, but I am thinking with a quick hone it wont be too bad. This will be for a daily driver with no power adders or after market parts, and will be used for a daily driver, about 500 miles /month. I will be using all stock internals, and the engine is out of a `98 Trans Am.
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You could have the skirts coated to get the piston-wall clearance back to spec. Calico Coatings and Polydyne are two that I know of who can do this. I think it's ~$150-200.
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Thanks KCS.
What if that wasn`t an option? Anyone built one of these with the clearances being just a little more than ideal?
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What type of alloy is the piston....or at least the brand/type....we can figure it out from there.

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They are stock pistons.
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I'd coat them like KCS said and hone them as little as you can and still get them round.

Unfortunately you won't know how they clean up till you hone them.
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Guys, would you still get them coated, even if they are only .001" over the max?
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Loose is fast butt it will prolly use some oil. I've seen some engines put together with loose pistons, they run great but used some oil.
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Originally Posted by Hawk312
Guys, would you still get them coated, even if they are only .001" over the max?
Probably would on a cast piston.
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Loose is fast butt it will prolly use some oil. I've seen some engines put together with loose pistons, they run great but used some oil.
Yeah, I would think it will use a little oil, and I am fine with that, so long as it isn`t a quart every 500 miles or so. And this will be a daily driver, and wont be driven hard.
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Ok guys......so I am considering the coating option now, since $150-$200 isn`t too bad. Does anyone have experience with this? Am I looking at long turn around times? Is this something that I can have done locally, or is it something only a very few specific companies can do?
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Your pistons are 15% less expansion than the attached spreadsheet. Better check with your engine builder
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Oh, also I ceramic coated my piston tops, thermal dispersant coated the bottom and moly coated the sides. But, don't count on any of that. When metal expands, it expands.

Edit. Oh ok. That is for 2618 alloy. If you are using 4032 Alloy, then take 15% off my figures.

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Originally Posted by kelp
Your pistons are 15% less expansion than the attached spreadsheet. Better check with your engine builder
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We use Polydyn right around the corner here in Houston but you are a lil far away!



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