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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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So I dropped a lifter during cam swap... is it possible to fish it out and put it back without taking off the heads? I have read threads where its mentioned but never said how to do it.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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ehhh, that sucks. Sorry I dont remember reading how to do it..good luck!
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Originally Posted by LT1T/A
So I dropped a lifter during cam swap... is it possible to fish it out and put it back without taking off the heads? I have read threads where its mentioned but never said how to do it.

Are you working on an LT1 or an LS1?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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a very good magnet extension tool

craftsman makes one with a light at the end of it....

then you would have to get it in the hole from far away with no control as to its angle or position of the lifter.....very unlikely

heads are coming off

it's not too bad, just more expensive. On the upside, while they're off, you can send them to Total Engine Airflow and get them ported-

that would net you a huge amount of gain at once.
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Are you working on an LT1 or an LS1?
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I have a couple of different magnets w/ extensions to use. Im just extra super pissed cuz I just put the k-member back on after changing rod bolts and motor mounts.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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I have a couple of different magnets w/ extensions to use. Im just extra super pissed cuz I just put the k-member back on after changing rod bolts and motor mounts.
Your user name threw me off a bit. Yeah you will need to take the head off!
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which lifter is it? I think you might be able to get at a couple of them if you take the intake and valley cover off. I think there are a couple holes under the valley pan that might help you get a lifter back into the tray threw.

where did the lifter fall to?? I mean can you get it out some how?

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which lifter is it? I think you might be able to get at a couple of them if you take the intake and valley cover off. I think there are a couple holes under the valley pan that you might help you get a lifter back into the tray threw.

where did the lifter fall to?? I mean do you get it out some how?
Going through the valley cover, thats what I was thinking too. It was from cylinder 8.
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You have to pull the head.
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I just did a preliminary swipe with the magnet w/o dropping the pan and havent found it yet. I broke off one of the small oil pan bolt head towards the front of the pan when reinstalling the bolts so Im not even sure how to drop this thing. FML
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I just did a preliminary swipe with the magnet w/o dropping the pan and havent found it yet. I broke off one of the small oil pan bolt head towards the front of the pan when reinstalling the bolts so Im not even sure how to drop this thing. FML
You are not having any luck today!
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You are not having any luck today!
I know. Ive been angry in the garage before, broke and threw stuff but never till today have I felt like I was having a nervous breakdown hahaha...
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idk man i think it might be possible??
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man, that ruined my day just reading it!
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ok heres some pics i took just a min ago for ya.
my motors torn down to the short block so look at these.

heres a pic of the rear hole under the valley cover


and heres a pic with the head off showing that you could maybe get a lifter started back up into #8, threw the hole under the valley cover.


Now i know its a long shot but u gotta take the intake off anyway if ur going to have to pull the heads, right??? So id pull the valley cover off quick and then make ur own decision. Good luck getting that pan off and finding that lifter. Hope this helps.....

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When I took my heads off I noticed that you can't really access the cam....you just have holes.

So how do you get inside the engine to change cam bearings or pull lifters out?

It almost seems like you have to turn it on it's side and shake it.
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Originally Posted by v8newb
When I took my heads off I noticed that you can't really access the cam....you just have holes.

So how do you get inside the engine to change cam bearings or pull lifters out?

It almost seems like you have to turn it on it's side and shake it.
Im not sure what ur asking?
To change the cam bearings im pretty sure ud have to tear the whole motor apart ''bottom end''

To pull the lifters out u have to pull the heads and then the lifter trays.

Luckly when i did mine i left the cam in when i pulled the lifter trays and lifters. If not a couple of mine would have fell into the oil pan as well.
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Originally Posted by v8newb
When I took my heads off I noticed that you can't really access the cam....you just have holes.

So how do you get inside the engine to change cam bearings or pull lifters out?

It almost seems like you have to turn it on it's side and shake it.
Cam bearings are changed from the front of the engine.....
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Wow, why didnt you use some dowels to hold up the lifters?
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Thanx a bunch man. I just got done pulling off the exhaust and intake manifolds, and power steering so Im about to take a peek at that tomarow/today so wish me luck.


Originally Posted by blakern
ok heres some pics i took just a min ago for ya.
my motors torn down to the short block so look at these.

heres a pic of the rear hole under the valley cover


and heres a pic with the head off showing that you could maybe get a lifter started back up into #8, threw the hole under the valley cover.


Now i know its a long shot but u gotta take the intake off anyway if ur going to have to pull the heads, right??? So id pull the valley cover off quick and then make ur own decision. Good luck getting that pan off and finding that lifter. Hope this helps.....
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