ms3 or Toquer V2??
03-15-2010, 03:03 PM
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ms3 or Toquer V2?? Hi friends... Im from Mexico.. Actually I have a 98 A4(tranny) camaro my mods are: 373 gears, 285 nitto drags, 222/224 comp cam, valve springs, 3000 stall, true duals and headers..
Recently I get a 243 ported heads(not installed), I was wondering to change cam for a bigger one. Ive reading a lot about it, but Im still confused. My car is not daily drive right now, but I like city drive. So, Im gonna ported heads but in the same operation a new cam which one do u recommend me?
Ive read that MS3 will need a higher stall torquer not?
or will be better my actual cam with the ported heads?
thansk a lot..!!
Recently I get a 243 ported heads(not installed), I was wondering to change cam for a bigger one. Ive reading a lot about it, but Im still confused. My car is not daily drive right now, but I like city drive. So, Im gonna ported heads but in the same operation a new cam which one do u recommend me?
Ive read that MS3 will need a higher stall torquer not?
or will be better my actual cam with the ported heads?
thansk a lot..!!
03-15-2010, 03:13 PM
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Es lo que yo tengo y lo manejo en la ciudad! 
03-15-2010, 11:34 PM
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I would say the V2. You will make just as much power and be a little more streetable. But both will need a good tune. Are you running the stock intake? That will be a restriction with these cams and those heads. Don't get caught on numbers only(dyno).
03-16-2010, 01:49 PM
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yeah, but its difficult to decide....its a coincidence I also thought on it... its beetween torquer ----233/239....ms3
03-16-2010, 01:51 PM
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Why do people say this?
I would say the V2. You will make just as much power and be a little more streetable. But both will need a good tune. Are you running the stock intake? That will be a restriction with these cams and those heads. Don't get caught on numbers only(dyno).
I would say the V2. You will make just as much power and be a little more streetable. But both will need a good tune. Are you running the stock intake? That will be a restriction with these cams and those heads. Don't get caught on numbers only(dyno).
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Also if you still have a stock fuel pump and stock oil pump and do decide to go with the MS3, I would recommend upgrading as well. A LS6 ported oil pump and Walbro 255 hi flow fuel pump would be perfect. Oh and then come bigger injectors as well!
That's how this works my friend! Quite an expensive hobby we have chosen! How many miles does your car have?
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Si los resortes ya tienen capacidad de levante .650 estarian bien entonces! La gente de www.texas-speed.com son muy amigables te pueden contestar tus preguntas cuando les hables.
Also if you still have a stock fuel pump and stock oil pump and do decide to go with the MS3, I would recommend upgrading as well. A LS6 ported oil pump and Walbro 255 hi flow fuel pump would be perfect. Oh and then come bigger injectors as well! That's how this works my friend! Quite an expensive hobby we have chosen! How many miles does your car have?
Also if you still have a stock fuel pump and stock oil pump and do decide to go with the MS3, I would recommend upgrading as well. A LS6 ported oil pump and Walbro 255 hi flow fuel pump would be perfect. Oh and then come bigger injectors as well!
That's how this works my friend! Quite an expensive hobby we have chosen! How many miles does your car have?
ohhhh evary day i learn something else... I thought only cam... but it needs + & +....... as u say... expensive hobby!!!!!But I love it!!! Fistr i will have the ms3 and try with my springs if not i will buy a dual springs... and then.. i dont know STALL i think so....!!
03-17-2010, 03:19 PM
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ohhhh evary day i learn something else... I thought only cam... but it needs + & +....... as u say... expensive hobby!!!!!But I love it!!! Fistr i will have the ms3 and try with my springs if not i will buy a dual springs... and then.. i dont know STALL i think so....!!
I would only run duals with an MS3. I realize the lift is low 600's but the lobes are so fast off the seat you really need a strong spring to control it.
03-17-2010, 04:09 PM
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Why do people say this?
I would say the V2. You will make just as much power and be a little more streetable. But both will need a good tune. Are you running the stock intake? That will be a restriction with these cams and those heads. Don't get caught on numbers only(dyno).
I would say the V2. You will make just as much power and be a little more streetable. But both will need a good tune. Are you running the stock intake? That will be a restriction with these cams and those heads. Don't get caught on numbers only(dyno).
for one they arent the same grinds. tsp website even says they will make differnet HP levels.
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03-17-2010, 04:29 PM
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uh, well everyone says this because its true, i guess the majority's opinion isnt as good as u'r one idea
for one they arent the same grinds. tsp website even says they will make differnet HP levels. also usually the bigger the cam the worse the
drive-ability is. Big cams arent the best for street cars. thats why stock cams are tiny
for one they arent the same grinds. tsp website even says they will make differnet HP levels. also usually the bigger the cam the worse the
drive-ability is. Big cams arent the best for street cars. thats why stock cams are tiny
03-17-2010, 06:42 PM
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one cam will make more hp than another period! TSP's website, says ms3 makes more hp
[QUOTE=MUSTANGBRKR02;13038891]Why do people say this? QUOTE]
well i guess alot of people think the same way
thanks for clearing up what stock cams are for. lol
didnt know i needed to explain that, i just make short points (to much to type)
also if what u say, "cam for cam is making same hp" why not go with ms3?? whats the difference according to u?
[QUOTE=MUSTANGBRKR02;13038891]Why do people say this? QUOTE]
well i guess alot of people think the same way
thanks for clearing up what stock cams are for. lol
didnt know i needed to explain that, i just make short points (to much to type)
also if what u say, "cam for cam is making same hp" why not go with ms3?? whats the difference according to u?
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