Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Sleeper Cam

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:12 PM
  #1  
LS1_Crazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Default Sleeper Cam

I am looking for a good stock idle cam that produces pretty good hp gains...i have looked into the Thunder Racing "old man" cam (tr115)...does anybody have any negative or positive info on this cam...or is there another cam that would be better with a very stock sounding idle...any help would be appreaciated
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:20 PM
  #2  
jrp's Avatar
jrp
SN95 Director
20 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,755
Likes: 7
From: Valencia, Ca
Default

check out the mti stealth cams. coloniel has the S1 i believe and is making great power with it.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:23 PM
  #3  
LS1_Crazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Default

how is the idle on the mti stealth cams...if you know...how much hp are you thinking that the S1 can produce on stock heads
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:27 PM
  #4  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default

Not sure about peak hp figures about the MTI stealth cams, but if i were into getting a silent setup with stock idle, those would be the cams i'd be lookin' into.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:07 PM
  #5  
Bowtieman4life's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Tx
Default

My cam idles at 750 and makes good power. See below. PM if you are interseted in a similar one.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:27 PM
  #6  
Taspeed's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 636
Likes: 2
From: Arlington, TX
Default

Man..the ultimate stealth cam is the GT2-3. And in an M6 car it makes 400+ Auto are making 390+ with heads
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:30 PM
  #7  
goober35's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 0
From: St Clairsville, Oh
Default

Yes sir they sure do. Made 390 look on the dyno. It is a kick *** cam. I am changing the set up hear soon i will be selling it for $225 so if you want to wait i will send it to you.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 12:08 AM
  #8  
BRIAN98Z28's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
From: Fairfax VA
Default

what are the specs on the gt2-3 cam?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:43 AM
  #9  
LS171Malibu's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
From: Fort Worth TX
Default

I've got a good Lunati cam... 221/221 .510/.510 on a 116 that made good power in the original owners C-5 that I'll sell for a 100. I just pulled it out of my engine and it's a steal at that price.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 06:16 AM
  #10  
J-Rod's Avatar
6600 rpm clutch dump of death Administrator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,983
Likes: 13
From: Texas
Default

Look at this post by Patrick G on the OMC from TR. It made the same power as his TR230...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/11-found-ultimate-old-man-cam.html
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 09:36 AM
  #11  
LS1_Crazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Default

how stealthy is the idle on a gt2-3 cam...sounds like a pretty bad *** cam if you can see 400 hp...is that with stock ls1 heads?
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 09:40 AM
  #12  
Taspeed's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 636
Likes: 2
From: Arlington, TX
Default

The idle on the GT2-3 is stock. If someone doesn't tell you they have a cam...you won't know it. And as far as the heads go I think they were with stock heads. With ported heads they are getting over 400
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 02:04 PM
  #13  
LPE SS's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
From: Ann Arbor, Mi
Default

207/220 .573/.580 @ 118.5

Verrrrrrrrrrry stealthy
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 02:30 PM
  #14  
goober35's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 0
From: St Clairsville, Oh
Default

I wish i could find a sound clip of the car but it would not matter all you have to do is find any F-body that is stock with header and that is what it sounds like.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:03 PM
  #15  
Colonel's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 9,246
Likes: 3
From: Troy, AL
Default

For the record, I run the Stealth Series II cam or "SS2" (224/220 .581/.581 116 LSA.) The S1 (Sanders 1) cam was my 9 second NA cam. It's decidedly NOT stealthy!

11.20 at 121 MPH and a STOCK idle at 650 RPM while pushing 3525 lbs with 3.23 gears. I couldn't be more pleased with this cam. This was with LS6 heads (11.1:1 CR) which add about 10-12 RWHP, IMO. It dynoed 423 RWHP through an A4 tranny spinning 17x11" wheels and 315/35/17" Nittos. Your results may vary. Some people have had a less than stealthy idle with this cam. I dunno. All I can tell you is what mine does.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 09:01 PM
  #16  
Trojan T/A's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 523
Likes: 0
From: So. Cal
Default

If you are going for a stealth setup, I'd go the LS6 cam route. If you go stealth, why spend a couple hundred extra for a little extra power. The LS6 cam has made 390 on stock LS6 heads and over 400 on ported LS1 heads. This cam, with springs costs less than $300. Compared to another "stealth" cam that is 400 for the cam, and another 300 for springs and retainers = $700. With gears or a high stall torque converter, you probably wont see a difference between the cams as you will always be up in the powerband. If you want more power down low, then a stealthy vendor cam would be more appropriate. Just remember that the exhaust system will be the major determinant as to how "stealthy" a cam is.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 12:34 AM
  #17  
jrp's Avatar
jrp
SN95 Director
20 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,755
Likes: 7
From: Valencia, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by Trojan T/A
If you are going for a stealth setup, I'd go the LS6 cam route. If you go stealth, why spend a couple hundred extra for a little extra power. The LS6 cam has made 390 on stock LS6 heads and over 400 on ported LS1 heads. This cam, with springs costs less than $300. Compared to another "stealth" cam that is 400 for the cam, and another 300 for springs and retainers = $700. With gears or a high stall torque converter, you probably wont see a difference between the cams as you will always be up in the powerband. If you want more power down low, then a stealthy vendor cam would be more appropriate. Just remember that the exhaust system will be the major determinant as to how "stealthy" a cam is.
the ls6 wont see gains over an ls1 cam until like 5k. with stealth grinds and other similar cams the gains are peak and under the curve. i dont see the point of doing a cam swap for an ls6 cam unless you keep your car relatively stock.

Last edited by jrp; Jan 9, 2004 at 01:21 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 11:39 PM
  #18  
goober35's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 0
From: St Clairsville, Oh
Default

Gt2-3
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 09:15 PM
  #19  
ddnspider's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

Hey guys i bought the Lingenfelter gt2-3 cam.my car goes in the shop friday.if you want ill take a clip of the car when its done.its supposed to be the best sleeper cam.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 09:24 PM
  #20  
goober35's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 0
From: St Clairsville, Oh
Default

There is no need to get a sound clip of your car. All we have to do is go find a stock car and listen. I have had that cam it is the sleeper for all sleepers.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:21 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE