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Old 11-13-2010 | 10:40 AM
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Im having problems with the car at the track,not pulling in third gear and miss firing.took it to the dyno,power is taking a dive around 5800,both with nos and na.motor 383,ls6 heads,comp cam,248/615 lift,114,patriot valve springs,fp was no lower than 58 psi,plugs looked good.dyno guy said it may be a broken valve spring,motor used to rev to 7000,with no problem.any ideas.
Old 11-13-2010 | 10:53 AM
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Sounds like valve float. Assuming the plugs look okay - pull the valve covers and look at/test the springs/pushrods/etc.
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I asked the dyno guy if it was valve float,but he said,it did look like on the on the computer,would a broken spring cause it,motor only has 5k on it.
Old 11-14-2010 | 05:59 PM
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all the springs looked okay,did a commpression test,every cyl. around 180.pulled 2 springs and goint to have them tested.
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pulled all the spring,they checked good,i entered pinks on nov.20th,anybody have any ideas.
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whats the pressures on your springs? Seat and open?
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What rocker arms are you using?

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yella terra rockers,135 closed,375 open.
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You don't have enough spring for Yella Terras with XE-R lobes. I'd put stock rockers back on it. You're problem should remedy itself.

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i understand what you are saying,but the motor never had this problem,used to rev to 7k.no problem.
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Is that due to the extra weight of the yella terras? sorry if thats a dumb question i just feel like i had a lightbulb moment here
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anybody else,running out of ideas.
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Those springs are done.

Yes, it is due to the extra weight of the Yella Terras.

I know for a fact you don't have enough spring pressure for your setup.

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I order the extremes,should be here today,i dont have the stock rockers anymore.
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They should get you another season. Check them often. They will not last long in your application.

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good luck!
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thanks,for all the help.should have it back together tonight,hope that fixes it.
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Hopefully that cures your problems. Make sure you install to correct coil bind. I dont know what partiot recomends but I would say about .060 from coil bind.
Old 11-19-2010 | 08:33 AM
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did a couple of second gear pulls last night on the highway,felt putty good,pick up 2 inches of vacumm,at idle cant figure that one out.
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So what was this issue, float?



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