About to order new parts, need expert advise!
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About to order new parts, need expert advise!
Hello.
Well I have done all of my research, and I believe I have found all the parts I need for my rebuild.
So can the guys that have built a few of these motors before look over my parts and tell me if anything is wrong.
Motor is a 2004 lq4 with the stock 317 heads, and a LS6 intake.
Gaskets:
http://sdparts.com/details/cometic-gaskets/compro1007t
http://sdparts.com/details/cometic-gaskets/compro1007b
Ordering these from GM Parts Direct.
Oil gallery plug-12573460
Oil galley plug- 9427693
Oil plug 2x- 11588949
Trans dowel 2x- 1453658
Water plug- 11609289
The following is from Speed Inc.
MAH4005MS Mahle Motorsport 4.000" + .005" plasma moly ring set 1.5/1.5/3.0 $139.99
CLE2199H Clevite LS1 main bearings $129.99
CLE663VN Clevite LS1/SBC rod bearings $89.99
DUR-CHP-10 Dura-bond Cam Bearing Set - GenIII $39.99
ARP134-3610 ARP LS1 Hex Head Bolt Kit, 2004 & up LS1/LS6 $121.99
PAT8401 Partiot "Gold" .650" Lift Dual Spring Kit $254.99
MOR-5290 Morel "Street" Hydraulic Link-Bar Lifters LSx $379.00
JPP5622T JP LS2 Single Roller Timing Chain Set $99.99
IZM-ST Speed Inc LS1/LS2 Valve Spring Install Tool $99.99
ARP234-2503 ARP Harmonic Balancer Bolt Kit, LS1, LS6, 5.7L & 6.0L $27.99
CC7955-16 Comp Cams 7.400" Chrome-moly pushrods $119.99
Sub-Total
$1,503.90
And camshaft:
http://speed-eng.com/store/comp-lsr-...l?osCsid=46fbc
If there is anything missing, please let me know. I am going to assume that there is.. but thats what you all are here for.
But I still have a few questions.
Those piston rings say they are for a 4.00" bore plus .005" for the rings. So does my engine bore need to be 4.005". Or can I just have the block honed and be done with it?
Thanks allot in advance.
Well I have done all of my research, and I believe I have found all the parts I need for my rebuild.
So can the guys that have built a few of these motors before look over my parts and tell me if anything is wrong.
Motor is a 2004 lq4 with the stock 317 heads, and a LS6 intake.
Gaskets:
http://sdparts.com/details/cometic-gaskets/compro1007t
http://sdparts.com/details/cometic-gaskets/compro1007b
Ordering these from GM Parts Direct.
Oil gallery plug-12573460
Oil galley plug- 9427693
Oil plug 2x- 11588949
Trans dowel 2x- 1453658
Water plug- 11609289
The following is from Speed Inc.
MAH4005MS Mahle Motorsport 4.000" + .005" plasma moly ring set 1.5/1.5/3.0 $139.99
CLE2199H Clevite LS1 main bearings $129.99
CLE663VN Clevite LS1/SBC rod bearings $89.99
DUR-CHP-10 Dura-bond Cam Bearing Set - GenIII $39.99
ARP134-3610 ARP LS1 Hex Head Bolt Kit, 2004 & up LS1/LS6 $121.99
PAT8401 Partiot "Gold" .650" Lift Dual Spring Kit $254.99
MOR-5290 Morel "Street" Hydraulic Link-Bar Lifters LSx $379.00
JPP5622T JP LS2 Single Roller Timing Chain Set $99.99
IZM-ST Speed Inc LS1/LS2 Valve Spring Install Tool $99.99
ARP234-2503 ARP Harmonic Balancer Bolt Kit, LS1, LS6, 5.7L & 6.0L $27.99
CC7955-16 Comp Cams 7.400" Chrome-moly pushrods $119.99
Sub-Total
$1,503.90
And camshaft:
http://speed-eng.com/store/comp-lsr-...l?osCsid=46fbc
If there is anything missing, please let me know. I am going to assume that there is.. but thats what you all are here for.
But I still have a few questions.
Those piston rings say they are for a 4.00" bore plus .005" for the rings. So does my engine bore need to be 4.005". Or can I just have the block honed and be done with it?
Thanks allot in advance.
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after the long block is assembled measure for correct PR length .if you deck the block or mill the head any you will need a different length .whats the preload on your new lifters?
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As far as preload for the lifters.... I couldn't tell you. Whats the significance of the preload?
http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000700
Found this on the forum.
.030"-.080" lifter preload
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Find out what preload spec is recommended for those lifters.
Then measure your preload after you assemble.
An adjustable pushrod works well.
Order up your new pushrods last and your all set.
Then measure your preload after you assemble.
An adjustable pushrod works well.
Order up your new pushrods last and your all set.
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You need to make sure those are the correct cam bearings and head bolts. I believe if you have a block with all short head bolts(like those you listed) then you also need the newer style cam bearings. Give someone at speed inc a call and verify before you order!
I also do not like the RPM limits on the Morel "street" lifters. I would go with the better Morel lifters or if you can't swing the extra coin then go for the LS7 lifters with new trays. The MOrel streets may be fine for what you are looking to do, but I have not found any solid reviews from anyone running them.
As far as the ring question. They are most likely oversized to allow for a file fit to match the bore more precisely. You should be fine just to hone the cylinders and go.
I also do not like the RPM limits on the Morel "street" lifters. I would go with the better Morel lifters or if you can't swing the extra coin then go for the LS7 lifters with new trays. The MOrel streets may be fine for what you are looking to do, but I have not found any solid reviews from anyone running them.
As far as the ring question. They are most likely oversized to allow for a file fit to match the bore more precisely. You should be fine just to hone the cylinders and go.
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Either your cam bearings or head bolts are wrong. The CH-10 bearings are for older blocks, and the CH-23 are for 04 and up.
Also, the rings are for 4.005" bore so that you can file fit the rings. If you hone the block to 4.005" with stock pistons, you're going to have some issues with piston slap.
Also, the rings are for 4.005" bore so that you can file fit the rings. If you hone the block to 4.005" with stock pistons, you're going to have some issues with piston slap.
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Ok thanks for the info guys. I looked on speed inc's website and it said those other cam bearings are for 2004.5 and up... so they should work?
Also what liters do you all recommend for my setup?
And this adjustable pushrod should do the trick right?
http://msperformanceonline.com/7702-1.html
Thanks again.
Also what liters do you all recommend for my setup?
And this adjustable pushrod should do the trick right?
http://msperformanceonline.com/7702-1.html
Thanks again.
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Ok thanks for the info guys. I looked on speed inc's website and it said those other cam bearings are for 2004.5 and up... so they should work?
Also what liters do you all recommend for my setup?
And this adjustable pushrod should do the trick right?
http://msperformanceonline.com/7702-1.html
Thanks again.
Also what liters do you all recommend for my setup?
And this adjustable pushrod should do the trick right?
http://msperformanceonline.com/7702-1.html
Thanks again.
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But with the springs I want it to come as a kit, its usually cheaper... Like the one I listed...
http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000152
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Also, can someone link me to a good article preferably with picture of how to determine preload. Hell a video would be awesome.
I understand the basics of how to do it, but I really want to make sure.
I understand the basics of how to do it, but I really want to make sure.
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For measuring pushrod, all you have to do is search around. We have discussed it a bunch of times.
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Consider some Lunati dual golds. They run $220 shipped from sponsors here.
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Oh I have searched, but as time gos along new parts come out.. New advice..
When I do something for the very first time I like to make sure that I do it right so I do not waste my money. And so I actually learn something.
Thanks for the link.