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Old 02-15-2011, 01:29 AM
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Hello.

Well I have done all of my research, and I believe I have found all the parts I need for my rebuild.

So can the guys that have built a few of these motors before look over my parts and tell me if anything is wrong.

Motor is a 2004 lq4 with the stock 317 heads, and a LS6 intake.


Gaskets:
http://sdparts.com/details/cometic-gaskets/compro1007t
http://sdparts.com/details/cometic-gaskets/compro1007b

Ordering these from GM Parts Direct.

Oil gallery plug-12573460
Oil galley plug- 9427693
Oil plug 2x- 11588949
Trans dowel 2x- 1453658
Water plug- 11609289

The following is from Speed Inc.

MAH4005MS Mahle Motorsport 4.000" + .005" plasma moly ring set 1.5/1.5/3.0 $139.99
CLE2199H Clevite LS1 main bearings $129.99
CLE663VN Clevite LS1/SBC rod bearings $89.99
DUR-CHP-10 Dura-bond Cam Bearing Set - GenIII $39.99
ARP134-3610 ARP LS1 Hex Head Bolt Kit, 2004 & up LS1/LS6 $121.99
PAT8401 Partiot "Gold" .650" Lift Dual Spring Kit $254.99
MOR-5290 Morel "Street" Hydraulic Link-Bar Lifters LSx $379.00
JPP5622T JP LS2 Single Roller Timing Chain Set $99.99
IZM-ST Speed Inc LS1/LS2 Valve Spring Install Tool $99.99
ARP234-2503 ARP Harmonic Balancer Bolt Kit, LS1, LS6, 5.7L & 6.0L $27.99
CC7955-16 Comp Cams 7.400" Chrome-moly pushrods $119.99
Sub-Total

$1,503.90
And camshaft:

http://speed-eng.com/store/comp-lsr-...l?osCsid=46fbc

If there is anything missing, please let me know. I am going to assume that there is.. but thats what you all are here for.

But I still have a few questions.

Those piston rings say they are for a 4.00" bore plus .005" for the rings. So does my engine bore need to be 4.005". Or can I just have the block honed and be done with it?

Thanks allot in advance.
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You need to measure for pushrod length.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
You need to measure for pushrod length.
So thats the only thing you can see wrong with that entire list?

I have the old push rods in my car, so do I just measure those...?
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after the long block is assembled measure for correct PR length .if you deck the block or mill the head any you will need a different length .whats the preload on your new lifters?
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Originally Posted by garygnu
after the long block is assembled measure for correct PR length .if you deck the block or mill the head any you will need a different length .whats the preload on your new lifters?
I thought I could just buy new rods, and wouldn't have to measure.

As far as preload for the lifters.... I couldn't tell you. Whats the significance of the preload?

http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000700

Found this on the forum.

.030"-.080" lifter preload
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Find out what preload spec is recommended for those lifters.
Then measure your preload after you assemble.
An adjustable pushrod works well.

Order up your new pushrods last and your all set.
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You need to make sure those are the correct cam bearings and head bolts. I believe if you have a block with all short head bolts(like those you listed) then you also need the newer style cam bearings. Give someone at speed inc a call and verify before you order!

I also do not like the RPM limits on the Morel "street" lifters. I would go with the better Morel lifters or if you can't swing the extra coin then go for the LS7 lifters with new trays. The MOrel streets may be fine for what you are looking to do, but I have not found any solid reviews from anyone running them.

As far as the ring question. They are most likely oversized to allow for a file fit to match the bore more precisely. You should be fine just to hone the cylinders and go.
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Either your cam bearings or head bolts are wrong. The CH-10 bearings are for older blocks, and the CH-23 are for 04 and up.

Also, the rings are for 4.005" bore so that you can file fit the rings. If you hone the block to 4.005" with stock pistons, you're going to have some issues with piston slap.
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Ok thanks for the info guys. I looked on speed inc's website and it said those other cam bearings are for 2004.5 and up... so they should work?

Also what liters do you all recommend for my setup?

And this adjustable pushrod should do the trick right?

http://msperformanceonline.com/7702-1.html

Thanks again.
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I would use Comp 850-16 lifters,and #26926 Ultra Dual Valve Springs, both from Compcam
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Originally Posted by tylerdustin2008
Ok thanks for the info guys. I looked on speed inc's website and it said those other cam bearings are for 2004.5 and up... so they should work?

Also what liters do you all recommend for my setup?

And this adjustable pushrod should do the trick right?

http://msperformanceonline.com/7702-1.html

Thanks again.
You need to check your block and verify whether it has all the same length headbolts. If your block uses all short bolts then you also need the new style cam bearings.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
I would use Comp 850-16 lifters,and #26926 Ultra Dual Valve Springs, both from Compcam
I think I like the price of those lifters a bit better.

But with the springs I want it to come as a kit, its usually cheaper... Like the one I listed...

http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000152
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Also, can someone link me to a good article preferably with picture of how to determine preload. Hell a video would be awesome.

I understand the basics of how to do it, but I really want to make sure.
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Anyone else?
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For measuring pushrod, all you have to do is search around. We have discussed it a bunch of times.

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No one?
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It took 10 seconds

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...s-measure.html
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4

Oh I have searched, but as time gos along new parts come out.. New advice..

When I do something for the very first time I like to make sure that I do it right so I do not waste my money. And so I actually learn something.

Thanks for the link.
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There are a bunch of threads like that. Read several. Measuring for pushrods isn't hard to do at all.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
There are a bunch of threads like that. Read several. Measuring for pushrods isn't hard to do at all.
You wouldn't think so. But would you work on a space ship with out asking a **** ton on questions would you?

First time, want to make sure I don't teach my self the wrong way.



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