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Old 10-08-2011, 10:58 PM
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ok,so i have read and read hundreds of cam threads.I want some opinions here.98 full weight t/a,has longtubes,ory and mangaflow catback.Also has lid and filter.I want a cam that will drive good with a 2500-2800 stall.I realize i need to get different heads than the stockers but that can wait for now.I want around 400 rwhp and keep seeing the 228 cam being a good one.I have the stock stall right now but i am going to buy a converter soon.I only want to buy a cam and install it first.I know i need springs.I seen a place that was selling combo kits for 600 shipped?Is there any other places that has deals on cams?

Also know where i can get a gto cam for $20,is that the same as a 01 z06 cam?I hate to put in a cam only to find it to small.
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Your best bet is to get a custom cam spec'd by Pat G or Predator Z.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...heads-cam.html
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Originally Posted by 2manytoyz
ok,so i have read and read hundreds of cam threads.I want some opinions here.98 full weight t/a,has longtubes,ory and mangaflow catback.Also has lid and filter.I want a cam that will drive good with a 2500-2800 stall.I realize i need to get different heads than the stockers but that can wait for now.I want around 400 rwhp and keep seeing the 228 cam being a good one.I have the stock stall right now but i am going to buy a converter soon.I only want to buy a cam and install it first.I know i need springs.I seen a place that was selling combo kits for 600 shipped?Is there any other places that has deals on cams?

Also know where i can get a gto cam for $20,is that the same as a 01 z06 cam?I hate to put in a cam only to find it to small.
Have to get a pretty small cam with the small stall you want. No reason IMO to get that small of a cam. You will need a cooler with ANY aftermarket stall so you might as well get a decent sized one. This will make or break your whole setup. Caming a car with a 2500 stall is not the best idea. I've been down that stupid road and I can tell you I wasn't happy. Now I'm on a 3400 stall with stock cam and it's a blast to drive and I couldn't be happier with it. You should get atleast a 3k+ stall for an aftermarket cam.
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stock cam.....
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stock cam.....
That's all I was going to say, but I can't stand people modding cars in such a bad way and waisting there hard earned money on HORRIBLE setups. OP, get a 3k plus stall and than you will have a huge selection of cams you can go with.
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For that stall and stock rear end; a lot of the Car Magazines have used the Comp 212/218 for their builds. It drives great and requires no tuning.
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Originally Posted by highgear
For that stall and stock rear end; a lot of the Car Magazines have used the Comp 212/218 for their builds. It drives great and requires no tuning.
Please tell me your kidding? You need a tune for ANY cam other than stock. It is a waist of money to go with that small of a cam IMO. You could put money in elsewhere and get more hp. Cam kit is going to cost you at the very least $600 to get it all done right. And than $400 for a cheap 2500 stall. You have over 1k into like 15hp.
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Skip the cam for now. More stall is neccesary. 3000-3500 stall with a stock cam. 3500+ stall with an aftermarket cam.
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I ran a stock cam with a 3200 converter and it wasn't enough converter. It was a VERY DD friendly setup. I then swapped in a TR224 and that was a very street-able combo. That's the type of combo for a DD vehicle. If you are going to go any smaller then a 224 cam, don't bother. As for the 3200 converter....there is a difference between an 11 inch 3200 and a 9.5 3200. Though it's pricier, go with the 9.5 billet front. They will not make an 11 inch converter stall more then 3k-3200 because they lose too much efficiency. A Yank 3600 and a TR224 or 228 would be a great combo.

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Now not all people want a drag car or even a street strip. A 2800 stall can be sufficient for spirited street driving.
As for cam, I would say a TR 224/224 114LSA or a 224/230 114 LSA (along these lines).
If you go with a 228R (228/228 112LSA), then you'll need to step up to a 3200 or above stall. The Yank SS3600 mentioned above is a great street/strip converter for that range cam.
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I did not feel my 3200/TR224 combo was anything drag oriented. It was the perfect DD setup......and it leaves a lot to be desired to a true racer.
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I would just get a higher stall for now and get a cam based on your head choice.
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check TSP or thunder racing for good prices on cam pkgs.get a bigger stall,you won't regret it.the EPS 222/226 cam would work ok with a smaller converter.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
I did not feel my 3200/TR224 combo was anything drag oriented. It was the perfect DD setup......and it leaves a lot to be desired to a true racer.
A TR224 cam is not a drag oriented cam, but in a light setup with proper suspension and weight transfer it can reach 120mph, which can translate in mid to low 11s with the right air.
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My father has a 2800 pro torque converter with a small/medium cam and it worked great. Although this is a GTO, he didn't have his car even close to maxed out and had the record for cam only for a long time. However, the stall very soon came out and he ended up going big. When i put a 3600 yank in my camaro, it was the biggest difference i have ever seen. It was a bigger difference than the headers exhaust lid and tune which were all done at the same time. Go with a good converter and worry about a cam later.
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The problem i have with a stall is i dont want my car to become a weekend car,i sometimes drive this car long distances.I also have fuel ecomony in mind,and lastly i highly dought my wife would want to drive it reving to 3500,halfway to redline-thats just not going to happen.All im looking for is a good street set-up with more power,so everyone agrees a 224 is a good cam,what about a zo6 cam?i only want 400 or so rwhp
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Originally Posted by 2manytoyz
The problem i have with a stall is i dont want my car to become a weekend car,i sometimes drive this car long distances.I also have fuel ecomony in mind,and lastly i highly dought my wife would want to drive it reving to 3500,halfway to redline-thats just not going to happen.All im looking for is a good street set-up with more power,so everyone agrees a 224 is a good cam,what about a zo6 cam?i only want 400 or so rwhp
Honestly you won't get 400hp with a 224 on stock heads through an auto. And you don't understand how these cars drive with a quality 3k+ stall. If you get a yank 3600 stall you won't even know it's there. You will have to rev it slightly higher. Nowhere near 3500 rpm. It pretty much drives like stock and over 35 mph it locks and you won't even know it's there tell you go WOT. Get a yank ss3600 with a 224 or 228r and be done with it
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Originally Posted by 2manytoyz
The problem i have with a stall is i dont want my car to become a weekend car,i sometimes drive this car long distances.I also have fuel ecomony in mind,and lastly i highly dought my wife would want to drive it reving to 3500,halfway to redline-thats just not going to happen.All im looking for is a good street set-up with more power,so everyone agrees a 224 is a good cam,what about a zo6 cam?i only want 400 or so rwhp
With my cutout closed my old lady can't even tell (driving) my car has a ss4000......but, that just means I need a bigger stall
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Like everybody else said, at least get a ss3200/tr224 or you'll wish you went bigger later, if I knew how drivable the ss3200 was when I ordered mine a few years ago I might have gone with a ss3600. If you want at least 400rwhp though you'll need something like a EPS 226/230 or bigger.
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i have a 2800 stall and regret not going 3600 to start....do it right the first time and go big enough to support larger C/H/I setups. the stall is probably the biggest asset to an auto so don't skimp there. Driving around town with a cam has a lot to do with the tune that goes in the car. there are guys that DD 23x/23x cams and claim the driveability is great due to the tuner. 400 whp without better heads is definitely going to take a bigger cam. I run 243's with a z06 cam and put down 350 whp. If I got a better intake and throttle body, and gave my heads to AI and redyno'd with the cutout open, I MIGHT see 400whp...but that's a huge maybe.


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