228r or polluter for DD
I know I'm late to this thread and have a M6 but I have a little .02$
I have a large cam, 4.10's yada yada. I COULD DD my ride if I wanted to, it idles well enough and drive good with the 4.10. But if it was my only car I wouldn't have went as max effort on alot of the things I've done.
I wouldn't be worried about dyno numbers you will almost always be let down.
A 228 with a good stall with be a great driver and you'll be pleased with how it turns out until you end up wanting more.
Calm down and get all the parts you need to do it right or you will second guess yourself and regret your purchase if you slap a bunch of miss matched parts together.
I have a large cam, 4.10's yada yada. I COULD DD my ride if I wanted to, it idles well enough and drive good with the 4.10. But if it was my only car I wouldn't have went as max effort on alot of the things I've done.
I wouldn't be worried about dyno numbers you will almost always be let down.
A 228 with a good stall with be a great driver and you'll be pleased with how it turns out until you end up wanting more.
Calm down and get all the parts you need to do it right or you will second guess yourself and regret your purchase if you slap a bunch of miss matched parts together.
228r is a good dd cam,I have it aswell but Im m6.To get close to 400whp with this came need good exhaust/intake/tune.Its a solid 380whp combo with decent heads and for the street will be easy to drive/tune and get good mileage.At time I wish I had gone a lil bigger of a cam and the torquer 3 was my next runner up,requires a more in depth street tune for sure,its choppy but can be dd and has a sick mid-top end power/torque.If you plan on squeezing every hp out of your motor..go one size up than the 228r so that your not second guessing yourself.I love the cam dont get me wrong...its designed to be work well even on stock motors and just change to hardened pushrods and better springs and away you go.I drove mine untuned for 2 months and it was not bad at all.
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I will be happy for a long time with the 228. It's my only car. My baby. So most of the time I granny it. I doubt Ill wish to go bigger and if I do I don't mind saving and swapping cams.
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just what comp told me Yes, massively different. Stock LS heads flow what 'race' old school heads used to, and that alone is enough to make cams act differently. It's a completely different engine design, so guidelines on what worked in 'old school' motors aren't applicable to modern engine design.
In short, stop listening to him.
Also: Go with a 3600 converter. I have a Yank 3600 SS in my '98. It's a damned good converter on the street.
In short, stop listening to him.
Also: Go with a 3600 converter. I have a Yank 3600 SS in my '98. It's a damned good converter on the street.
The comp techs have 'old school motor' on the brain. I don't think you'll be happy with that cam with a 2800 rpm converter. The stock converter is what, 2400? You're just 400 rpm over that. What type of converter is it? A quality one, or a re-flashed stocker?
If you're not willing to change the converter, don't go larger than a 224 and even then it's marginal. What other mods are done to the car?
If you're not willing to change the converter, don't go larger than a 224 and even then it's marginal. What other mods are done to the car?
I was looking into the 224 228 111 lsa comp cam talked to ther tech support about the requierments they told me headers and exhaust and a 2400 to 3000 stall coverter would be great for my 99 z28 and told me the 230 and up cams that i originally wanted needed between 3200 and 4000 stall so im going 224 228 cam cause my stall is only 2800 just thought i throw in what comp told me all yea they said my 323 would be fine just probally have a more notable slippage in dd
The comp techs have 'old school motor' on the brain. I don't think you'll be happy with that cam with a 2800 rpm converter. The stock converter is what, 2400? You're just 400 rpm over that. What type of converter is it? A quality one, or a re-flashed stocker?
If you're not willing to change the converter, don't go larger than a 224 and even then it's marginal. What other mods are done to the car?
If you're not willing to change the converter, don't go larger than a 224 and even then it's marginal. What other mods are done to the car?
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2400 The comp techs have 'old school motor' on the brain. I don't think you'll be happy with that cam with a 2800 rpm converter. The stock converter is what, 2400? You're just 400 rpm over that. What type of converter is it? A quality one, or a re-flashed stocker?
If you're not willing to change the converter, don't go larger than a 224 and even then it's marginal. What other mods are done to the car?
If you're not willing to change the converter, don't go larger than a 224 and even then it's marginal. What other mods are done to the car?
Mr cap lock on lol, op i think the 228 is great, but if ya want a good cam sound go with something custom and you can get everything you want, i have heard 22? Cams sound like my ms4, if i ever buy another cam it will for sure be custom, get a plan and stick to it,ya dont wanna do something twice,
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sorry about caps Mr cap lock on lol, op i think the 228 is great, but if ya want a good cam sound go with something custom and you can get everything you want, i have heard 22? Cams sound like my ms4, if i ever buy another cam it will for sure be custom, get a plan and stick to it,ya dont wanna do something twice,
op you should be good with the 228r and a 32-3600 stall. the 228r is a good dd cam because it makes a good amount of power down low vs higher in the rpm band. i saw that you were concerned with HP #s...you have an a4 so dont be too worried about #s because they will be lower than an m6.
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Hp isn't a big concern I just don't want to swap in a 228 and lose to a Bolton car you know? I know a4 eats hp compared to m6. I'm hoping for a solid 40-60 hp gain tho. Either way i decided 228r and ss3200. Can't wait 
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I doubt there will be track time. The closest is 1/8 mile and 1/4 is an hour away. It's street all the way. Track doesn't matter to me. Would there be a mpg difference in 3200 and a 3600?
I drive mine 2-2.5 hrs to the track
