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Old 11-13-2012, 09:29 AM
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Summit Racing does not list a Forged Crank for a 5.3 Any help finding one would be great. Im very new to this so also any tips would be nice IE Cam, Rods, Pistons. Im putting a D1SC on it with a blow through Carb. Im open to all ideas bc I have no idea on what set up would be best. The only rock solid ideas so far are the blow through and the D1SC. Thanks
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Also, it has a 24 tooth Reluctor Wheel in it now. Not sure if that matters with a new crank or not. Its an iron block.
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Are you looking to stay stock stroke, or go larger? We offer a few different brands that will work with your setup.
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Originally Posted by Jake@Texas-Speed
Are you looking to stay stock stroke, or go larger? We offer a few different brands that will work with your setup.
As I am new to this, do you have to do any work to the block to have a longer stroke? If so how much work is needed?
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If the block needs to be bored anyway, just bore it to LS1 size and use a forged 5.7 rotating assembly.
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Originally Posted by batboy
If the block needs to be bored anyway, just bore it to LS1 size and use a forged 5.7 rotating assembly.
The block looks good so I do not need to bore it over any. I would like to keep the walls as thick as I can. Im use to SBC that needed some block work to allow for a bigger stroke. IE clearing for a stroker crank. Do I need to do that for a longer stroke on a 5.3?
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why are you set on buying a crank?
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
why are you set on buying a crank?
I was told if your shooting for over 500hp you needed to replace it.
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you need to ignore whomever told you that.
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Originally Posted by Bonnie Rampage
I was told if your shooting for over 500hp you needed to replace it.
The stock crank is one of the last things that needs to be replaced in the engine. Stock 5.3L cranks have seen well over 1000hp.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
you need to ignore whomever told you that.
So what is it good too?
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
The stock crank is one of the last things that needs to be replaced in the engine. Stock 5.3L cranks have seen well over 1000hp.
Ok so I could get away with just rods and pistons?
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So what is it good too?
Anything over 800rwhp and it's recomended you get a stronger crank. Up to that it will be fine.
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Originally Posted by Bonnie Rampage
I was told if your shooting for over 500hp you needed to replace it.
What are you doing with the engine? Boost, nitrous, naturally aspirated?
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
The stock crank is one of the last things that needs to be replaced in the engine. Stock 5.3L cranks have seen well over 1000hp.
Originally Posted by redtan
Anything over 800rwhp and it's recomended you get a stronger crank. Up to that it will be fine.

I would tend to agree with both these guys.

The people pushing stock parts 800-1000hp+ do so knowing they could lose the engine. Some do it figuring a junkyard longblock is cheaper than a forged crank, some like the challenge and notoriety that come with making huge power on stock parts. At any rate anyone saying 500ish is the limit for a stock crank is not to be trusted atall, OEM gen 1 sbc cranks are go to more than that and materials/engineering/machining on the LS series is better.

There are gen 1 and gen 2 cast aftermarket cranks that will break below that but not stock GM V8 stuff.
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The stock GM cranks are quite durable. I'm close to 600 hp on a stock LS1 bottom end.

To answer your original question, anytime you install a stroker crank, you need to check the clearance of the counter weights and rod bolts. Sometimes a little grinding of the block is required. It's usually not much with a 4" crank.

I'd just get forged rods and pistons and call it a day. Here are the pistons you want for a 5.3 with stock crank (use 6.125" long rods with those pistons):

http://texas-speed.com/p-741-wiseco-...l-engines.aspx
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Originally Posted by KCS
What are you doing with the engine? Boost, nitrous, naturally aspirated?
Blow through carb with a D1SC ProCharger. Maybe a 150 shot once in a blue moon.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
I would tend to agree with both these guys.

The people pushing stock parts 800-1000hp+ do so knowing they could lose the engine. Some do it figuring a junkyard longblock is cheaper than a forged crank, some like the challenge and notoriety that come with making huge power on stock parts. At any rate anyone saying 500ish is the limit for a stock crank is not to be trusted atall, OEM gen 1 sbc cranks are go to more than that and materials/engineering/machining on the LS series is better.

There are gen 1 and gen 2 cast aftermarket cranks that will break below that but not stock GM V8 stuff.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by batboy
The stock GM cranks are quite durable. I'm close to 600 hp on a stock LS1 bottom end.

To answer your original question, anytime you install a stroker crank, you need to check the clearance of the counter weights and rod bolts. Sometimes a little grinding of the block is required. It's usually not much with a 4" crank.

I'd just get forged rods and pistons and call it a day. Here are the pistons you want for a 5.3 with stock crank (use 6.125" long rods with those pistons):

http://texas-speed.com/p-741-wiseco-...l-engines.aspx
Thank you!!!
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You are good with the stock crank man. If it were me, I would run it as is. You got that thing cheap!!! Haha.


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