Finally pulling the trigger on parts!
05-04-2013, 09:13 PM
#162
Yikes... That blows. Sorry to hear that. I guess I got lucky considering my wife loves the TA. She just keeps nagging me saying that it's her care too and I better not ruin it! And luckily she doesn't look at the packing slips or even ask what's in the packages or what they cost!
05-05-2013, 02:53 PM
#163
Okay, well I'm trying to decide what exhaust setup I want to go with. I had planned on going Kooks LT/TD setup, and maybe I can still luck out and get it at a price I feel comfortable with, but I don't know. If it's north of $2400 (+ the PHB Relo/DSL), I think I might reconsider buying that. That's more than a Kooks/ARH Setup + Corsa on a Vette. Wtf.
Right now I'm weighing the following options:
-Buy the Kooks headers now and the ORY and run it in the stock CB until I feel like running the Kooks TD (cheapest - and able to get me on the road the fastest; also gives me an upgrade path) - $1050 shipped
-ARH LT/ORY System, which is my preference if I run a Y-Pipe setup due to their actual merged Y-Pipe - I'd probably then run the Magnaflow CB with it for a pretty mellow sounding setup that shouldn't lose too much power to the TDs with the current mods (more expensive that just a Kooks LT/ORY setup, but I could also just run the stock CB with it, but would be inclined to invest in a quality CB since I'd be sticking with the ORY. The problem is no upgrade path to mass produced true duals) - $1660 shipped with Magnaflow Quad Tip CB
-Kooks LT/TD - most expensive setup, but also the most power/best looks/loudest - $2500+
One thing I keep going back and forth on is the sound. One one hand, if I'm going to run a really loud setup, TDs out the back seem the most civilized... dumped is a no go and raspy loud Y setups are also unappealing. Even still, I might grow to hate the TDs if they are just too loud (but I bet I could swap mufflers or add another set of bullets if needed).
The Maganflow is pretty mild, but still screams at WOT. I also don't want to run cats, so something like the GMMG wouldn't be ideal with the ORY. Plus the price there starts to close the gap to the Kooks LT/TDs and the sound probably starts to get louder/more annoying as well.
The price differences are what they are. I just don't know. If I can be as fast with the ARH/Magnaflow combo, I will save some cash and have a milder sounded exhaust and better ground clearance...
And I guess that's what the post is about. Will I be any slower with a more street and wallet friendly setup?
Right now I'm weighing the following options:
-Buy the Kooks headers now and the ORY and run it in the stock CB until I feel like running the Kooks TD (cheapest - and able to get me on the road the fastest; also gives me an upgrade path) - $1050 shipped
-ARH LT/ORY System, which is my preference if I run a Y-Pipe setup due to their actual merged Y-Pipe - I'd probably then run the Magnaflow CB with it for a pretty mellow sounding setup that shouldn't lose too much power to the TDs with the current mods (more expensive that just a Kooks LT/ORY setup, but I could also just run the stock CB with it, but would be inclined to invest in a quality CB since I'd be sticking with the ORY. The problem is no upgrade path to mass produced true duals) - $1660 shipped with Magnaflow Quad Tip CB
-Kooks LT/TD - most expensive setup, but also the most power/best looks/loudest - $2500+
One thing I keep going back and forth on is the sound. One one hand, if I'm going to run a really loud setup, TDs out the back seem the most civilized... dumped is a no go and raspy loud Y setups are also unappealing. Even still, I might grow to hate the TDs if they are just too loud (but I bet I could swap mufflers or add another set of bullets if needed).
The Maganflow is pretty mild, but still screams at WOT. I also don't want to run cats, so something like the GMMG wouldn't be ideal with the ORY. Plus the price there starts to close the gap to the Kooks LT/TDs and the sound probably starts to get louder/more annoying as well.
The price differences are what they are. I just don't know. If I can be as fast with the ARH/Magnaflow combo, I will save some cash and have a milder sounded exhaust and better ground clearance...
And I guess that's what the post is about. Will I be any slower with a more street and wallet friendly setup?
05-05-2013, 03:29 PM
#164
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Ever thought of the Bassani TDs? 2.5" all the way to the back. You will obviously need a reducer off the header and they are not made to be used with LTs so an exhaust shop will have to do a little work to mate them up, but there's a few guys on here running them with LTs that really like them. PM me if you want some info on where you can get them for a good price. I have them and will be putting them on in the next couple months.
05-05-2013, 07:21 PM
#168
On my last setup I ran a 3 inch y pipe into flowmaster merger w/ 4inch out, 4 inch to a 4 inch cutout then back to stock SLP dual/dual catback. I picked up 9rwhp with the cutout open.
Given you will be putting out a lot more power than I did then. I'm going with 1 7/8 headers now and will keep the rest of the exhaust the same. Ground clearance was great, better than stock actually.
Given you will be putting out a lot more power than I did then. I'm going with 1 7/8 headers now and will keep the rest of the exhaust the same. Ground clearance was great, better than stock actually.
05-05-2013, 07:46 PM
#171
No, merge to 4"; it'd be a 3" off the collector and end up in high-flow merge with a 4". It looks like their HVMCcollector but on the Y-pipe. So it's a bit different than the Flowmaster.
And it's 304SS.
Here's a picture: https://ls1tech.com/forums/16440164-post1.html
I mean, if I end up hacking up a Y-Pipe, maybe I just buy Kooks headers and get a custom fabbed Y-pipe. ARH is pretty much bolt on though. I'll be the first to admit, I'm not a big fan of running a cutout.
And it's 304SS.
Here's a picture: https://ls1tech.com/forums/16440164-post1.html
I mean, if I end up hacking up a Y-Pipe, maybe I just buy Kooks headers and get a custom fabbed Y-pipe. ARH is pretty much bolt on though. I'll be the first to admit, I'm not a big fan of running a cutout.
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05-05-2013, 08:42 PM
#174
That's basically what Pat G did. He made 500rwhp with that sort of setup. I think I might just save some cash and do a Y-pipe setup. I won't lose any ground clearance, and I'll be able to keep the car tame just driving around.
My brother has a super loud Mustang, and he keeps warning me not to go super loud...
My brother has a super loud Mustang, and he keeps warning me not to go super loud...
05-05-2013, 08:59 PM
#176
i have 3.5 Y-pipe -3.5 I-pipe - magnaflow catback
my car was dynoed with TDs (dumps) and the setup posted above. i only lost 2rwtq. didnt lose any HP.
the dumps where one of the worse ideas i even did exhaust wise. everyone told me not to do it. i didnt listen and well i guess you live and learn LOL
all im going to do now in add in a cutout and call it done. the TD that go all the way back from kooks are nice but are way overpriced for my liking, the Bassani setup only has one pipe the goes under the rearend and the other goes over. if i find a used one at a good price i might pick the up and have my Fab guy cut that under pipe and make it go over. he wouldnt charge me much, just for the pipe witch isnt much. but other wise im sticking with the setup i have.
i have no cats and i have no rasp.
my car was dynoed with TDs (dumps) and the setup posted above. i only lost 2rwtq. didnt lose any HP.
the dumps where one of the worse ideas i even did exhaust wise. everyone told me not to do it. i didnt listen and well i guess you live and learn LOL
all im going to do now in add in a cutout and call it done. the TD that go all the way back from kooks are nice but are way overpriced for my liking, the Bassani setup only has one pipe the goes under the rearend and the other goes over. if i find a used one at a good price i might pick the up and have my Fab guy cut that under pipe and make it go over. he wouldnt charge me much, just for the pipe witch isnt much. but other wise im sticking with the setup i have.
i have no cats and i have no rasp.
05-06-2013, 12:06 AM
#178
If I had a choice do it again I would make my own ypipe bc I have a setup in mind I want to do but I didnt have a choice at that time and point so I just got the kooks one. Other wise no problem with it. I ripped the dumps off 2 days after I drove the car with them on and just bought what I could to replace them with.
05-06-2013, 12:31 AM
#179
Cool.
Yeah. I've got the question into ARH about a 3" to 4" Y-pipe with a proper merge.
I also am trying to see how low I can get on the Kooks TDs.
In the Vette world, dual 2.5" didn't really hurt performance at all, since well, dual 2.5s support a lot of power. But necking down from 3" didn't hurt things because the neck down was pretty far away from the engine. I think if I do the Y-Pipe setup and have the 4" neck down pretty far down the exhaust path, it probably won't make any difference or lose any power to a dual setup.
Yeah. I've got the question into ARH about a 3" to 4" Y-pipe with a proper merge.
I also am trying to see how low I can get on the Kooks TDs.
In the Vette world, dual 2.5" didn't really hurt performance at all, since well, dual 2.5s support a lot of power. But necking down from 3" didn't hurt things because the neck down was pretty far away from the engine. I think if I do the Y-Pipe setup and have the 4" neck down pretty far down the exhaust path, it probably won't make any difference or lose any power to a dual setup.
05-06-2013, 12:41 AM
#180
i had the prokit with the kooks and didnt it.... (PS- the prokit springs sucked)
i now have the newer BMR springs and the headers still clear everything so far
no part of my exhaust hits with BMR springs
when i had the TDs (dumps) everything hit lol (thats only one of many problems with dumps lol)
i now have the newer BMR springs and the headers still clear everything so far
no part of my exhaust hits with BMR springs
when i had the TDs (dumps) everything hit lol (thats only one of many problems with dumps lol)