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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 01:52 PM
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I'm about to change heads on my car. Ever since I've had the stroker, I've always had major piston slap at start up. Now, it goes away after about 5 minutes or until it gets warm. I removed my old heads and I go to clean up the inside of the bores and there is little play when moving the piston around the bore. This is in all the bores. According to the build sheet, the pistons are 4.005 with a .0045 piston to bore clearance. Is this what's causing my piston slap and is it OK?????????
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Yes, the stock stroke ls1s are known for piston slap, and when we add a longer stroke we make it worse. So your good, that is what it suppose to be doing.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 05:33 AM
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yes you should be able to rock the piston in the bore by hand
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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Yes, the stock stroke ls1s are known for piston slap, and when we add a longer stroke we make it worse. So your good, that is what it suppose to be doing.
Stock stroke LS1s don't have 4.000 bore which I can only assume that's what the OP started with. Thus this is not an LS1 but most likely an LS2 or an iron LQ9/4.

Those didn't really have piston slap issues, and with a properly built bottom end with good clearances there's no reason for it to have these issues. An engine is not "supposed" to rock the pistons against the liners...that's an issue (albeit a small and almost insignificant issue as most engines are ok with piston slap).
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Stock stroke LS1s don't have 4.000 bore which I can only assume that's what the OP started with. Thus this is not an LS1 but most likely an LS2 or an iron LQ9/4.

Those didn't really have piston slap issues, and with a properly built bottom end with good clearances there's no reason for it to have these issues. An engine is not "supposed" to rock the pistons against the liners...that's an issue (albeit a small and almost insignificant issue as most engines are ok with piston slap).
my stroker motor is setup with 0.003-0.005" piston to wall clearance. the pistons can be rocked by hand with the heads off. I have zero piston slap noise.

what clearances are you referring to?
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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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I'm assuming its a forged piston based on your post, and if so, then about .004 is very common.
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I've never heard an ls1 yet that didn't have the cold piston slap. If it quiets down when warmed up I wouldn't worry about it. .0045" is going to definitely cause cold piston slap. You obviously are running forged if it quiets down after it warms up.
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yes, the pistons are wiseco's and it doesn't even have any piston slap when cold.
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The pistons have a barrel shape to them from top to bottom. From the top, the pistons seem to move around a lot, but the minimum clearance of .0045" is a little more than the thickness of a sheet of paper. As everything heats up, as noted, parts expand and the clearances tighten up.
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Thanks for the advise guys. We went ahead and slapped the heads on. In the 6 yrs I've had the motor I was never really worried.............
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