List All Patriot Head Problems Encountered
06-20-2004, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
yeah and it was a STOCK untouched GM Seat
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06-20-2004, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
supposedly yes. maybe the welding of the head chambers could have been an issue, who knows. For $1xxx dollars I think he deserved something better than an inferior product which obviously wasn't tested for defect. Just my .02. Like others, I feel Patriot did a lot of their R&D on the public and not in their own shop.
For the last time,the heads Todd boyght was a factory seat and chamber.There was no welding done to the heads he purchased.
I was at th N/S event,the TSP car ran a 10.20.
06-20-2004, 06:27 PM
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They qualified second at a 10.43.In the first round in eliminations,the car performed a huge wheel stand for about 100 feet( drug the bumper ). 
Later in the day,in between rounds the car went 10.20.I am sure the car will go faster when the suspention gets dialed in.
Later in the day,in between rounds the car went 10.20.I am sure the car will go faster when the suspention gets dialed in. 
Must be nice, wish mine was that fast.
06-20-2004, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Red SS Barchetta
You guys make it sound like changing the springs is a five minute job. Its not. I've read about people having a nightmare just changing spark plugs.......we are talking valve springs. Maybe for some of you, its a 2 hour job, but not for me. Not to mention I had already put in 9 hours at work that day. It took an hour and a half just to get the valve covers back on and attach all the coil packs etc.
Bottom line is, I got a set of heads with F/U valve springs and shoddy seals. The issue was somewhat rectified by the vendor sending me the parts leaving me to fix it myself. Now I have a head in need of repair (due in no part to anything I did), and now I have to (at my expense) remove them, pay for shipping, and a new gasket/bolt set and take the time to remove and reinstall everything.
Yeah, I'm not too happy about it, but there is not much I can do. That is why I will look to another vendor for heads.
Bottom line is, I got a set of heads with F/U valve springs and shoddy seals. The issue was somewhat rectified by the vendor sending me the parts leaving me to fix it myself. Now I have a head in need of repair (due in no part to anything I did), and now I have to (at my expense) remove them, pay for shipping, and a new gasket/bolt set and take the time to remove and reinstall everything.
Yeah, I'm not too happy about it, but there is not much I can do. That is why I will look to another vendor for heads.
06-21-2004, 07:26 AM
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I had an oil consumption issue with the teflon seals but Terry sent a set of the viton seals and all is good now.
I was a little bummed I had to spend 2 afternoons (after work) changing them tho. I guess some guys can do it quicker but this was my first time. The Larry tool was pretty useless (threaded bolt was about an inch too short) with the dual springs until I went and bought some 8mm threaded rod, then it worked like a champ.
I was a little bummed I had to spend 2 afternoons (after work) changing them tho. I guess some guys can do it quicker but this was my first time. The Larry tool was pretty useless (threaded bolt was about an inch too short) with the dual springs until I went and bought some 8mm threaded rod, then it worked like a champ.
06-21-2004, 07:33 AM
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I can't believe a customer would buy a set of heads,have a problem,and never contact the manufacturer.We have never had a seat (that we install) come out of a cylinder head.
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06-21-2004, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TVWilkes
For the last time,the heads Todd bought was a factory seat and chamber.There was no welding done to the heads he purchased.
I was at the N/S event,the TSP car ran a 10.20.
I was at the N/S event,the TSP car ran a 10.20.
Please note his signature...
Blacked out 2001 Z28 M6.
Old Setup 440rwhp/401rwtq (TEA stg. 2 5.3L heads,TR 230, LS6 intake) 11.6@117.6mph DA=2700ft 3675lb raceweight
New Setup AP Engineering 347, LG Motorsports G5X3 cam, TEA Stg 2.5 LS6 HFCL Massengale heads, LSX), dual stg. 200 shot o juice assembled by Arizona Power and Sound
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06-21-2004, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TVWilkes
I can't believe a customer would buy a set of heads,have a problem,and never contact the manufacturer.We have never had a seat (that we install) come out of a cylinder head.
I've sent emails to Patriot and to Texas Speed with no reply. My car is burning oil...I need some new seals. The performance of these heads is unbelieveable! But its drinking oil. Please contact me.....ctnorth02@hotmail.com
06-21-2004, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mean02
I've sent emails to Patriot and to Texas Speed with no reply. My car is burning oil...I need some new seals. The performance of these heads is unbelieveable! But its drinking oil. Please contact me.....ctnorth02@hotmail.com
Email me your address,I will send you out some new seals.Sorry for the delay.
06-21-2004, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by EDC
Why bother Terry...
Please note his signature...
Blacked out 2001 Z28 M6.
Old Setup 440rwhp/401rwtq (TEA stg. 2 5.3L heads,TR 230, LS6 intake) 11.6@117.6mph DA=2700ft 3675lb raceweight
New Setup AP Engineering 347, LG Motorsports G5X3 cam, TEA Stg 2.5 LS6 HFCL Massengale heads, LSX), dual stg. 200 shot o juice assembled by Arizona Power and Sound
Arizona F-Body Association
Ed
Please note his signature...
Blacked out 2001 Z28 M6.
Old Setup 440rwhp/401rwtq (TEA stg. 2 5.3L heads,TR 230, LS6 intake) 11.6@117.6mph DA=2700ft 3675lb raceweight
New Setup AP Engineering 347, LG Motorsports G5X3 cam, TEA Stg 2.5 LS6 HFCL Massengale heads, LSX), dual stg. 200 shot o juice assembled by Arizona Power and Sound
Arizona F-Body Association
Ed
I love Absolutes heads and love MTI's heads as well....
06-21-2004, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
Sorry you are not the installer or the owner of the product. No bandwagoning allowed. Please ask the owner of the heads or the shop that installed them to post their experiences.
Chris
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06-21-2004, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
yeah and it was a STOCK untouched GM Seat
I'd also like to ask Terry where he gets his cores from....
06-21-2004, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by verbs
Actually Chris, SS on Your Six was the installer of the Patriot heads that destroyed Discount Tire Direct's motor......you jumped the gun a bit there...
Last edited by Chris ARE 360; 06-21-2004 at 11:56 AM.