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List All Patriot Head Problems Encountered
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Why lock? just move it to internal.
Don't want to start any crap!
just want to see what my odds are against? My every penny counts for my summer project. Patriot's input and help is awsome! But no parts are fail proof.
I know they had some spring issues last year, but that was fixed.
I would like to get LS6's but I can't dish out $3200 for stage 2's (including core)
$1795 is a killer deal, but I'm sure there are risks.
This is tech, good and bad. Darn sounds like wedding vows
Don't want to start any crap!
just want to see what my odds are against? My every penny counts for my summer project. Patriot's input and help is awsome! But no parts are fail proof.
I know they had some spring issues last year, but that was fixed.
I would like to get LS6's but I can't dish out $3200 for stage 2's (including core)
$1795 is a killer deal, but I'm sure there are risks.
This is tech, good and bad. Darn sounds like wedding vows
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Spring problems were fixed long ago. Patriot new "gold" springs are one of the best on the market now days.
The valve seals they use are now VITON brand. The best in my opinion.
They now use super 7 locks and retainers along with titanium spring seats. One of the best lock/retainer systems on the market.
The valves are made bt REV, a pretty good company. If you like you can get the Ferrera valves as an option.
That should about cover all the parts of the head. I don't see where any problems should arise.
The valve seals they use are now VITON brand. The best in my opinion.
They now use super 7 locks and retainers along with titanium spring seats. One of the best lock/retainer systems on the market.
The valves are made bt REV, a pretty good company. If you like you can get the Ferrera valves as an option.
That should about cover all the parts of the head. I don't see where any problems should arise.
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Verdad Gallardo There were some issues earlier this year, but those seem to have been corrected and were relatively isolated. First of all, the $1795 Patriot LS6 style heads are not LS6 heads. You have to compare apples to apples when shopping for heads, and get past the clever marketing tactics. A $3200 real LS6 head that you describe would KILL the $1795 PP head (and most of the others mentioned in this thread for that matter). Most good ported 5.7/5.3/4.8 heads flow about the same as the PP "LS6"s do. For that $1795, you have a ton of choices. APE, AS, TEA, MTI, and FFHP all have good ported heads in the ~$1700 or less range. Not saying anything is wrong with the PP heads, just don't get hung up on a $1700 "LS6" head being better than a $1700 LS1 head. It also depends on what cam you are going with. Go with a package, not just some heads and a cam randomely pieced together. There are many $1500 H/C packages that outperform $3000+ H/C packages. Heads and cams need to compliment each other IMO. Call a head porter of your choice, and go with what they recommend, they will almost always know what is best for your needs and for what you want to accomplish.
BTW, the SEARCH button would have answered all of your quetions.
Good luck, Shawn
BTW, the SEARCH button would have answered all of your quetions.
Good luck, Shawn
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Shoot, I didn't know that!!!! Now it makes more sense to me.
Thanks Spanky.
Thanks Spanky.
Originally Posted by Beast96Z
I don't see how Spanky can say that a true LS-6 head could be better. If Patriot ran the same program on a LS-6 head, it should produce the same number.
Originally Posted by Beast96Z
6.0 and LS-6 heads start life with the exact same port
Shawn
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i have stg 2 ls6 style heads only problem i had was the valve seals but that was when they had the teflon seals in them i have since installed the vitcon seals and no problems!!! patriot has an excellent product and great costumer service
My LS6 "STYLE" heads have made more HP than most anybody else would hope to achive. 474rwhp 422rwtq with a FMS FM13 cam and a mail order tune. I didn't pay but $1,700 for them, so that means I can spend another $1,500 on my car that a guy who spent the extra money on "REAL" LS6 heads couldn't spend. I don't see the benefit of the extra cash on the other heads.. hell, show me the cars over 470rwhp using real LS6 heads besides Rapid's car that has a 90mm LSX intake, TB, and MUCH larger cam than me.
Btw.. I had a problem with the very first set of patriot 5.3's I had almost two years ago with a defective valve. The problem was with the valve maker and not patriot.. but they still replaced the entire set of heads without a question. Since then I have bought several more sets of heads from them for myself and to install on other people's cars and have not had a single problem. I wouldn't hesitate one second in buying a set of their current production heads.
Btw.. I had a problem with the very first set of patriot 5.3's I had almost two years ago with a defective valve. The problem was with the valve maker and not patriot.. but they still replaced the entire set of heads without a question. Since then I have bought several more sets of heads from them for myself and to install on other people's cars and have not had a single problem. I wouldn't hesitate one second in buying a set of their current production heads.
Gomer, Damian is making over 470rwhp through an 8.8 with 5.3 heads 
I know, I know... Im a smartass
I have quite a bit of experience with Patriot heads, good and bad. Im not going to discuss it publicly either way since Im a "known basher" feel free to PM me with any questions/concerns you may have.
I know, I know... Im a smartass
I have quite a bit of experience with Patriot heads, good and bad. Im not going to discuss it publicly either way since Im a "known basher" feel free to PM me with any questions/concerns you may have.
Last edited by Cammin BeaSSt; May 2, 2004 at 09:33 PM.
Originally Posted by Cammin BeaSSt
Gomer, Damian is making over 470rwhp through an 8.8 with 5.3 heads
Btw.. you know us southern guys always have the dyno queens
I still owe you some wings and beer
