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Old 03-17-2014, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Damn, how much money are you going to have into this build once it's all said and done?
I prefer to not think about it lol. I have over 2500 in the block and internals alone. Over 7k in the whole engine but a lot of this I already had prior.
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I am trying to decide on lifters. I was going to use BTR SLR Lifters but they are out of stock and I have no clue when they will be in again. I need something that will work well for street and track driving with the possibility of maintaining over 7k rpm regularly.
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Have you thought about link bar lifters? Those would be really nice and provide stability at those really high RPM's. They are, however, very expensive.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Have you thought about link bar lifters? Those would be really nice and provide stability at those really high RPM's. They are, however, very expensive.
I have but I have heard bad things about certain ones so I am unsure which ones to get.
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Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6
I have but I have heard bad things about certain ones so I am unsure which ones to get.
Either the Morel 5274's or the Johnson's.

briantooleyracing.com has both.
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What bad things have you heard?
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham

Either the Morel 5274's or the Johnson's.

briantooleyracing.com has both.
Do you know if one is better than the other? Since there is a significant price difference.

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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
What bad things have you heard?
On certain ones lifters collapsed or worse after a couple thousand miles. They were Morel lifters too but I have only read a few instances of this and I think they were the 5290 series though, their entry level link bar lifters.
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Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6
Do you know if one is better than the other? Since there is a significant price difference.
I don't, unfortunately. That's when I make phone calls

Call Brian up! He's GREAT to talk with, trust me!
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham

I don't, unfortunately. That's when I make phone calls

Call Brian up! He's GREAT to talk with, trust me!
Cool I'll do that.
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Some of the Morels have very tight clearances so any little but of trash in the engine and they will fail. I want to say the 5206 Morels are the "street" lifter that would better suit an application like this. I don't know if you've noticed, but Colorado Speed has also been pushing other good alternatives to LS7 lifters and BTR's SLR lifters.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Some of the Morels have very tight clearances so any little but of trash in the engine and they will fail. I want to say the 5206 Morels are the "street" lifter that would better suit an application like this. I don't know if you've noticed, but Colorado Speed has also been pushing other good alternatives to LS7 lifters and BTR's SLR lifters.
After reading it seems that the 5206 and 5274 are identical except the link bar on the 5274 are designed to ensure that it fits warhawk blocks as well as LSx blocks.
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I'm 393 stroker also with t56 and 9" going in 1995 Sonoma ! Tick custom grind and 12:1 e85
Also . Great to see someone with the same situation ! I'll be following your build looks AWESOME TO ME !
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I'm 393 stroker also with t56 and 9" going in 1995 Sonoma ! Tick custom grind and 12:1 e85
Also . Great to see someone with the same situation ! I'll be following your build looks AWESOME TO ME !
Thanks and it is nice to see others doing a similar build. Have you started your build yet? I am also considering converting over to a manual and ditching the a4 down the road but for now I will stick with it. On another note my custom cam from EPS should be shipping out Monday.
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Yes I am in the process of installing a four link back half . And my Patriot heads with Thompson CNC are at Frankenstein Racing Heads as we speak getting fitted with bigger intake and smaller exhaust valves as well as bowl blend to help with the shrouding . I have a Ram twin disk with billet flywheel . a/c and p/s delete with Meizer h2o pump so no drag on this rotating assembly half and half street/strip . With SPRAY ! Direct port dry 100 shot then a wet second stage with Peak Speed ported Typhoon intake . opened up to 102mm :-D
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Originally Posted by Jamescassy
Yes I am in the process of installing a four link back half . And my Patriot heads with Thompson CNC are at Frankenstein Racing Heads as we speak getting fitted with bigger intake and smaller exhaust valves as well as bowl blend to help with the shrouding . I have a Ram twin disk with billet flywheel . a/c and p/s delete with Meizer h2o pump so no drag on this rotating assembly half and half street/strip . With SPRAY ! Direct port dry 100 shot then a wet second stage with Peak Speed ported Typhoon intake . opened up to 102mm :-D
Do you have a build thread with pics? If not, put one up. That sounds like a killer build. I'd love to see pictures of the Typhoon intake with direct port. Is the dry kit running through the direct port, and then you'll have a plate for the wet? Just curious how you're setting it up.
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Yes dry direct with 80# at 4 bar through Harris interface through 1st and 2nd then second stage wet nozzle around another 100 shot through 3rd and 4th out the back door ! No thread yet but am about to get it set up . Faceplated t56 . Current performance harness , all ARP AND SFI ! Will be 12 point Molly cage .
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4.125 scat 6.125 scat I beam and 3.903 wiseco +3 dome . Am building it around Martins suggestions for MAX EFFORT .
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Sounds like a pretty cool build dude. I was considering doing N2O possibly at some point since my FAST has the ports for it. I am doing MAX effort as well, no point in not doing that when you are dishing out the money anyway.
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You got that Right Man !


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