Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Daily Driver Cams

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:02 AM
  #1  
TransAmTimmy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Plantation Florida
Default Daily Driver Cams

Just looking for people that daily drive their cars. I'm in the market for a cam swap, but I'm not looking for cam advice as much as I would just like to hear your experiences with your car type/cam/ do you drive it often ? Mostly , your overall experience with you DD slightly modified car.. Thanks
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:11 AM
  #2  
TXZ28LS1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,163
Likes: 3
From: Classified
Default

With you being an auto your going to need a converter. Go with atleast a 3600+ stall minimum.

Drivability of a cam is different for everybody. Plus it deoends on your tuner. I would suggest TSP 228/228.

That would be a good combo for a daily driver.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 06:33 AM
  #3  
redtan's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 17
From: Belmont, MA
Default

With you being an auto your going to need a converter. Go with atleast a 3600+ stall minimum.
He doesn't need to go 3600 minimum for a daily driver, that's already getting kinda big. And for a stall that big the cam is not going to necessarily be dd friendly.

OP all depends if you want a reliable slightly faster dd or you want an extreme dd. The setup txz28ls1 can be daily driven, but you'll definitely notice it and so will your mpgs. You can still get some power with smaller stuff while keeping 100% if your driving characteristics.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 07:17 AM
  #4  
2000WS6TA's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 587
Likes: 1
From: finksburg, MD
Default

i just recently bought another car that i DD now but before that i was running my WS6 everyday with the TSP Torquer V.2 thats a 232/234 if i remember correctly. it would act a little funny at low rpms and trying to do low speed maneuvers like for parking or stuck in traffic but for the most part you just get use to it and learn how the cam likes to be driven then you shouldn't have much of a problem. i also ran this on a 6 speed though and know that for auto guys its a little different.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:09 AM
  #5  
Dickbob1992's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
From: camp pendleton/ bay area
Default

I dd a comp 212/218 low lift with a 2800 circle d in a 5.3 01 Z71. Does pretty good and only has low idle surge or acts funny once in a blue moon. IMO for a converter no more then 3k and no bigger a cam then probally 224. I'm going with a tb converter and a tsp custom 215/223 cam in my Z28 whenever I get around to building it...
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:27 AM
  #6  
redbird555's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,444
Likes: 9
From: Pompano Beach FL
Default

Originally Posted by Dickbob1992
I dd a comp 212/218 low lift with a 2800 circle d in a 5.3 01 Z71. Does pretty good and only has low idle surge or acts funny once in a blue moon. IMO for a converter no more then 3k and no bigger a cam then probally 224. I'm going with a tb converter and a tsp custom 215/223 cam in my Z28 whenever I get around to building it...
You'll regret going that small on the z28 if you do. I dd my f13 which is a 230/232 on a 114 which has 3 degrees of overlap. It lobes nice and makes good power everywhere. I have no cam surge and the car drives like stock with the exception of rolling in parking lots. With an auto a 3200 stall would be a min with a cam of any decent size. I think something along the lines of a 228/230 on a 114 would make a real nice mild setup for a DD. You could go a little hotter on the cam and up the stall to a 3600 as well without losing much if any driveability but thats ultimately up to the purchaser
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:31 AM
  #7  
mjs1012's Avatar
TECH Addict
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,688
Likes: 19
From: Stratford, CT
Default

My car isnt a full time DD anymore but when it was i had full boltons and 3600 stall and it was fine. For a while I was set on going with the 228r but ended up with the streetsweeper HT (228/232) and I can easily dd it. Its all in the tune. I drove my car like 3-4 days a week after the cam swap and had no problems doing so.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:37 AM
  #8  
TurboBuick6's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 708
Likes: 125
Default

My cam in my sig is a DD. 238/245 .650 lift. 6 speed car. Its not bad at all. My Turbo Buick with a 206/212 and a 3600 stall is worse.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:38 AM
  #9  
mchicia1's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 888
Likes: 9
Default

I have no issues tuning cams and getting them run smooth with up to 8 degrees overlap. They all seem to run the same 0 to 8 degrees overlap. I haven't tried anything bigger than that, however.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 08:46 AM
  #10  
DANOZ28's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,214
Likes: 0
From: MPLS MN
Default

im unhappy with my ls6 cam , too mellow. runs & drives smooth as stock but i didnt like my dyno #s. 224 or possibly a 228 w stall. my stall isn't in yet so i cant tell you what size stall to get. cheers

Last edited by DANOZ28; Feb 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 09:30 AM
  #11  
TransAmTimmy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Plantation Florida
Default

Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
With you being an auto your going to need a converter. Go with atleast a 3600+ stall minimum.

Drivability of a cam is different for everybody. Plus it deoends on your tuner. I would suggest TSP 228/228.

That would be a good combo for a daily driver.
I called and spoke with a few shops , the all seem to point me in the direction of anything under TSP 228r or under that duration of cams in general, This is the first auto car that I needed a high stall for . ( my others were M6s.) My only bad experience with a high stall (+ 3200) was just stop and got traffic ended up over heating the stock tranny.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 09:41 AM
  #12  
TransAmTimmy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Plantation Florida
Default

Thanks to everyone for their input, my parts order is going out later this week for my cam swap. I would still like to hear everyones DD experience. I noticed a lot of the guys down here in South Florida said they almost all ended up doing a bigger cam.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 10:03 AM
  #13  
DANOZ28's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,214
Likes: 0
From: MPLS MN
Default

you said you had overheating problems did you have a cooler? i also run an aluminum pan. cheers
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 10:24 AM
  #14  
DREAMZ28's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
From: Hampton, VA
Default

I never had a cammed car but will be cammed next time its started (spun a rod bearing so new motor) but I did putt around with a 4000-4200 stall in front of 2.73s, you really get used to that aspect quickly. The first time you drive the stalled auto its weird as hell, but it grows on you, and you'll never get tired of the increased performance. If you want it to remain decently stock I'd go with the yank ss3600, everybody says that's one of the tighter of the shelf converters. That paired with 3.73s out back will make it decently tight.

If driveability is your main concern when it comes to the cam, I'd stay around a 230/234-6 max for duration, around a 6-8 degrees of overlap max, with the mildest lobes possible for increased reliability and niceness to the valve train. I'd also do a comp cams trunnion upgrade. Earlier IVC for improved bottom end torque and driveability, although that's not the whole picture when it comes to that. You can get radical and retain some driveability, I personally feel half of the demons people deal with with cams is usually due to the tune, low speed problems are the hardest to tune for.

Good luck for your cam and keep us updated with your results and experiences.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:36 PM
  #15  
redtan's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,764
Likes: 17
From: Belmont, MA
Default

I would still like to hear everyones DD experience. I noticed a lot of the guys down here in South Florida said they almost all ended up doing a bigger cam.
If you want power and driveability, heads is the best thing to do to your car. A nice set of heads (even ported stockers) will get you a ton of under the curve power without sacrificing ANY driveability. Not only that, but it will pickup some MPGs as well due to the better efficiency of the engine.

If you have some money and want a badass daily driver, a smaller cammed car with ported heads and higher compression will drive alot better than a big cammed car and make more power, especially down low where you will be driving 99% of the time.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:06 PM
  #16  
mchicia1's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 888
Likes: 9
Default

True, I made 370 rwhp in my car with the stock '99 cam, 1 7/8" headers, and AI ported 799 heads.

Thats about 40 rwhp higher than your typical bolt on car.

Of course, I gained 65 rwhp swapping to a 226/230 cam.

Doing heads with the stock cam is not such a bad idea. People on here make it seem like you're not going to gain even 5 hp.
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2014 | 10:43 PM
  #17  
TransAmTimmy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Plantation Florida
Default

Originally Posted by DANOZ28
you said you had overheating problems did you have a cooler? i also run an aluminum pan. cheers
Yes It was the stock 4l60, I was in stop and go traffic. After about 40 minutes of the traffic, the trans started slipping bad. I pulled off the road and towed it to my shop and let it cool off. it was using the stock cooler in the radiator. I was told by another tech I worked with was the low speed fan doesn't pull enough heat out to help out with the stress that a higher stall speed creates. I didn't experience the problem again after that, I ended up getting the high speed fan switch and just left it on most of the time. I ended up selling the car a few months down the road and picked up a TA m6. For the current TA I have now its an A4, so I will be addressing that problem soon. Thanks for the advice!
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2014 | 10:48 PM
  #18  
jsteele90's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,870
Likes: 2
From: delaware
Default

Daily drive my car. Its just fine. Plus the tune is perfect that is a huge difference between a good daily driven stalled/cammed car and one that you despise driving.lol
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2014 | 11:04 PM
  #19  
TransAmTimmy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Plantation Florida
Default

Originally Posted by DREAMZ28
I never had a cammed car but will be cammed next time its started (spun a rod bearing so new motor) but I did putt around with a 4000-4200 stall in front of 2.73s, you really get used to that aspect quickly. The first time you drive the stalled auto its weird as hell, but it grows on you, and you'll never get tired of the increased performance. If you want it to remain decently stock I'd go with the yank ss3600, everybody says that's one of the tighter of the shelf converters. That paired with 3.73s out back will make it decently tight.

If driveability is your main concern when it comes to the cam, I'd stay around a 230/234-6 max for duration, around a 6-8 degrees of overlap max, with the mildest lobes possible for increased reliability and niceness to the valve train. I'd also do a comp cams trunnion upgrade. Earlier IVC for improved bottom end torque and driveability, although that's not the whole picture when it comes to that. You can get radical and retain some driveability, I personally feel half of the demons people deal with with cams is usually due to the tune, low speed problems are the hardest to tune for.

Good luck for your cam and keep us updated with your results and experiences.
As for the most concern it more I would like to drive the car more than having to drive it on weekends, I cant ever get enough of these cars ! ( this being my first LS1 )My focus for this TA is more getting a little more outta the car without pulling the block out. Im somewhat new to LS motors, I had a 86 monte carlo ss with a ZZ4, Had a comp cam and 100 shot. Before that was an LT TA with hot cam and a small stall 2200.

I really like the LS motors and Im learning something every day. Back to the point is, I would like to enjoy bolt ons but im not opposed to cam swaps or heads either. I would like to keep the it with the DD range. I spoke to someone at TEXAS SPEED and they said a TSP 228r cam with PRC LS6 heads would make for a good combo. I know the stall is a must , thank you for helping me with it , its a little different then anything I have had before ( where the power band is and reving so much higher than anything I have had.
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2014 | 11:27 PM
  #20  
TransAmTimmy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Plantation Florida
Default

Originally Posted by mchicia1
True, I made 370 rwhp in my car with the stock '99 cam, 1 7/8" headers, and AI ported 799 heads.

Thats about 40 rwhp higher than your typical bolt on car.

Of course, I gained 65 rwhp swapping to a 226/230 cam.

Doing heads with the stock cam is not such a bad idea. People on here make it seem like you're not going to gain even 5 hp.
I never thought about porting the stock heads, ill have to look into to that. Thanks !
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:40 AM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE