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Old 05-06-2014, 10:15 AM
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2001 LS1 forged rod/piston, studded 241 heads, 11lbs D1 procharger, approximately 5k miles since rebuild. Looking for any likely scenarios that could possibly cause this.





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Damn, that block almost split in two!

What does the thrust bearing look like?
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Looks like crank walk to me, but ive never heard of that with an LS1. Something wasnt right with the rebuild....was the rotating assembly balanced?
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What do the rods look like?
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All the bearings were either spun or gaulded like it got pretty hot. Yes the assembly was balanced. Could the torque converter have balooned?
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I also thought it could have been an issue with the rebuild but after 5k miles?
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Id like to see the thrust bearing, I would think that is the culprit.
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Maybe so but why is the big question. Long story short I was overseas, trying to sell the car, let a buddy drive it to a few people to look at and came home to this mess. Of course he claims it ran fine before he parked it.

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Holly crap man! That thing is split all the way up to the cam. Did it even have a thrust bearing installed? Sorry for your troubles.
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Bad rebuild
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Youch!

Looks like the crank had some severe fore/aft movement.

Assuming the engine ran fine for the 5,000 miles, and the fact that you were running 11 pounds of boost, I'd say the build was good but there was some extreme abuse of the engine.

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...let a buddy drive it to a few people to look at and came home to this mess. Of course he claims it ran fine before he parked it.
Without a doubt, this is the cause of your busted engine.
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Originally Posted by blake2kz71
All the bearings were either spun or gaulded like it got pretty hot. Yes the assembly was balanced. Could the torque converter have balooned?
No oil or no oil pressure. You can tell how hot it got, because the steel caps are blued.
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Good catch there, I didn't see it. Can't say I've ever seen main caps blued like that from heat. Some good friend, eh? It's one thing to beat an engine like that but way worse when he says ''it was fine when I parked it''.

OP, I'm curious, what was the oil's condition when you opened this up?
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The thrust bearing completely went out it looks like as you just can't have the counterweights hitting the main webbing any other way. The cracked block is also pretty weird. Who built this? An abusive driver can't really make something like this happen in general it had something wrong that ate the thrust bearing away completely. Must have had a trans or converter issue forcing the crank forward like people are saying. Could have been installation errors with the transmission side of things or something weird with the thrust bearing too.

FWIW I have seen that happen three times and of the people all three had had converter issues and one had an engine assembly issue too.
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We have seen stuff like this before. Most of the time it is transmission related. It looks like something from the back side of the crank was pushing the crank forward. I am with the other people saying its tq converter related.
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I'd agree with all that^.

But that engine certainly made a lot of noise and smoke (from the oil burning on them mains) for the "friend" driving it to not at least know something was amiss.
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Yeah, I would think the counterweights rubbing the main caps would make a ton of noise.
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so this is an auto trans car? In a manual this is easy to cause by putting in the wrong pilot bearing....
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Any telltale signs on previous oil changes. The thrust wouldn't fail in one fell swoop.

I'd be more inclined to think it lost oil pressure and was continued to be driven like that.

BTW, you can see the thrust bearing. It's in the middle of the crank, not on the rear main.

Got more pics?
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Only one thing killed this engine..EXTREME ABUSE CAUSING THE TQ to balloon and fail.


Almost reminds me of the time I took my car to the trans shop and when I went to pick it up number 7 piston was in the exhaust.........BUT NO BODY KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT...........


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