Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Pulled spark plugs out to inspect, I have some questions.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-27-2004 | 10:54 PM
  #1  
Dragaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club NA
iTrader: (180)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,943
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default Pulled spark plugs out to inspect, I have some questions.

Im running NGK TR-55s. They have roughly 10k miles on them give or take. Im currently waiting on my new headers and I figured I would pull the plugs in the mean time to check them out. Well, on the passenger side, the very back plug was fairly wet with oil. Then on the driver's side, the very back 2 were wet with oil as well. All of them had this whitish color on the tips of them. Anyhow, Im wondering if LS1s are common to have oil on the plugs? How come its only on certain plugs? Is there something wrong with my motor? Why was there oil on the plugs? Lastly, should I clean them up and reinstall them, or buy a new set? Here's some pics, let me know what you think. Thanks.




Last edited by BlackBeaSSt; 05-27-2004 at 11:04 PM.
Old 05-28-2004 | 01:59 AM
  #2  
02WS6#519's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas, USA
Default

Did you seal your rocker arm bolts when you installed your cam? Maybe oil is seeping in through there. Mine was until I added teflon lubricant on them.


Peace
Ever
Old 05-28-2004 | 02:00 AM
  #3  
02WS6#519's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas, USA
Default

And install new spark plugs while your at it.

Peace
Ever
Old 05-28-2004 | 10:43 AM
  #4  
Dragaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club NA
iTrader: (180)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,943
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

I didnt seal my rocker arm bolts. I never knew about that. I actually never read up on that either on the how to installs. Why do you suggest installing new plugs? Just curious.
Old 05-28-2004 | 12:59 PM
  #5  
Ryan04Silverado's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Mesa Arizona
Default

Im curious now about the teflon on the rocker bolts? It is not mentioned in any of the write ups at all.

If your plugs are gunked up with oil, you should replace them.
Old 05-28-2004 | 01:01 PM
  #6  
02WS6#519's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas, USA
Default

I never knew about sealing the rocker arm bolts either. My car had never burned a drop of oil until my cam swap. Then I sealed the threads on the rocker arm bolts and it fixed the oil consumption. I would suggest changing to new plugs since you already have 10k miles on them and they might be fouled up anyways. Plus you're already there.


Peace
Ever
Old 05-28-2004 | 01:05 PM
  #7  
02WS6#519's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas, USA
Default

Trust me, the teflon sealant(or some other kind of silicone) on the rocker arm bolts(threads) is a must. If I had known about it before hand I would've been prepared the first time. Instead of having to go back and do it after I was done. Just added insurance in my opinion and isn't expensive or hard to do.

Peace
Ever

Trending Topics

Old 05-28-2004 | 02:22 PM
  #8  
BBADWS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
From: Houston/Magnolia, TX
Default

I have never heard of sealing your rocker arm bolts!
Old 05-28-2004 | 02:45 PM
  #9  
02WS6#519's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas, USA
Default

If you had you heads ported and the bottom threads are exposed on the intake runner you should put some sealant on the rocker bolt threads. I got a little tube of Permatex Thread Sealant for $5. It's a tiny little tube of sealant, but you only need it on the intake rocker bolts because the exhaust bolt threads are NOT exposed during the porting process.

Peace
Ever
Old 05-28-2004 | 02:50 PM
  #10  
JoeyGC5's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,645
Likes: 0
From: St Joe, MO
Default

From the way his mods read, sounds like he is cam'd only.

It's probably just oil from the pvc system. My vette was usually like that before the heads/cam swap. Hell, you should have seen the oil pool when I leaned my intake against a tooolbox for two days. It was about 8-9" in diameter
Old 05-28-2004 | 03:07 PM
  #11  
02WS6#519's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: El Paso, Texas, USA
Default

Yeah, if you haven't touched the heads then it's probably coming from the pcv. Just change the plugs and you'll be fine. Nothing to worry about.



Peace
Ever
Old 05-28-2004 | 05:15 PM
  #12  
Dragaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club NA
iTrader: (180)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,943
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

I know the plugs are cheap and all, but is it really necessary to change them if they only have 10k miles on them? I think the pics are working, look at them and let me know what you think. Oh...how can I tell or could you tell me by looking at the pics if they are fouled out? Thanks.
Old 05-29-2004 | 08:23 AM
  #13  
Camaro00_SS's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: New Haven MI
Default

Originally Posted by 02WS6#519
Yeah, if you haven't touched the heads then it's probably coming from the pcv. Just change the plugs and you'll be fine. Nothing to worry about.



Peace
Ever
Ever, your'e ever-where....
Old 05-29-2004 | 11:11 AM
  #14  
Orange Peel's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Default

I just checked my plugs when I installed my new cam, and mine where pretty white and burnt looking, I am running a little on the lean side right now and plus the crappy gas in AZ right now, I get some detonation, I need to retune my car now. I didn't have any oil on my TR55's though, just pretty f'd up. Maybe you should check to see if you are lean too, that will cause the plugs to go white, and are you consuming some oil maybe? My friends TA ate oil and his plugs had oil on them like you are describing.

Hope you get things figured out
Old 05-30-2004 | 04:36 PM
  #15  
Dragaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
9 Second Club NA
iTrader: (180)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,943
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

Do yall think that my valve seals are going bad?
Old 05-30-2004 | 04:40 PM
  #16  
Orange Peel's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Default

I thought oil on the plugs was the from the rings not the valve seals? Do you consume oil?
Old 07-02-2004 | 01:27 AM
  #17  
WS-6_2002's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
From: Mililani, Hi
Default

I got the same problem. I sealed my rocker bolts. The car has 27,000 miles on it. Also what does the white color electriod mean?
Old 07-02-2004 | 01:47 PM
  #18  
Dustin Butts's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 635
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Default

The plugs look good to me. The only oily stuff I see is on the threads. That could just be melted antiseize. The plugs do need changing however due to the edges of the center electrode being so rounded off. The rounded off electrode weakens your spark. The spark likes to jump off that crisp sharp edge, it also makes your ignition system work easier due to the spark forming easier. You may consider running a TR6(4177)..especially in the summer.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 PM.