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Old 02-12-2015, 10:04 PM
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So i have heard ls1 heads ported flow the same as ls6 heads ported. I need some input. I am building a sleeper and i wanted to put ls6 heads on the car but on the ls6 head its stamped 243 on the head.
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If your wanting to totally avoid possibly getting flagged on a smog check I'd have your stock heads cnc ported, and milled slightly to get the SCR up to 11:1. I believe that the LS6 heads will still have a slight potential advantage ofabout 5-10 rwhp.
Fyi, a FAST 92 intake manifold is also 50 State legal and has C.A.R.B. approval/number. So it's a good option .

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Depending on how its ported yes the ls1 241 can flow better. But ls6 heads have alot more potential. They are stamped 243/799.

I wouldn't waste my time on ls1 pre 01 heads to port on .

243/799 are the best to go... 317 if your planning on boost.
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Shave the 243 symbol off, simple

And 241 and 853 heads are the same.. Just cast differently
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I live in chicago so smog isnt a problem. And i have a 01 z28 so those heads are fine. I know the 98-00 heads suck. Also i would shave off the stamp but its a sleeper car. And i know the first thing i look at would be the heads and ppl would know right away if i shave off the stamp. And i have a money maker kit getting installed on my ls6 intake so im not going with a fast intake.
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I wouldn't worry about 241 vs 243 heads.. It's really a moot point once CNC ported

Set the car up properly and that's how you win a race.. I'm talking gears,converter, suspension..
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Originally Posted by SaLS1
I live in chicago so smog isnt a problem. And i have a 01 z28 so those heads are fine. I know the 98-00 heads suck. Also i would shave off the stamp but its a sleeper car. And i know the first thing i look at would be the heads and ppl would know right away if i shave off the stamp. And i have a money maker kit getting installed on my ls6 intake so im not going with a fast intake.
They're literally the exact same heads, except for some casting numbers. 98 heads have different bolt holes.
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The cars gonna be setup really nice. There is alot of kids around the neighborhood with mustangs that have exhaust n they think they are hot **** at stake n shake lol. So imma beat them all pedaling obviously.
Setup:
Ported heads
Gear
Converter
Cam
Full BMR drag suspension
And my fav "The money maker kit"

Leaving stock exhaust n manifolds cause imma try n hide the cam alittle better. And if you know what the money maker kit is....well you know 😉
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Ported 241s are NOT equal to ported 243. Not if you use a good shop anyway. I am sure that some high end 241s compete with low end 243s but that is quality of work not casting potential.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Ported 241s are NOT equal to ported 243. Not if you use a good shop anyway. I am sure that some high end 241s compete with low end 243s but that is quality of work not casting potential.
Nobody said equal!
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Originally Posted by Burken01
I wouldn't worry about 241 vs 243 heads.. It's really a moot point once CNC ported

Set the car up properly and that's how you win a race.. I'm talking gears,converter, suspension..
Originally Posted by Burken01
Nobody said equal!
So you didn't use the word equal....
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The guy obviously street races, a small hp diff won't net him a win in a race.. A properly set up car will..

Maybe I should have used this response earlier
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Rock the 241 heads. They're certainly capable of making good power and they're highly underrated.
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I just finished my "sleeper" and I have to pass emissions. Originally I had a heads only car with 799 Ported heads, the 799 stamp is very hard to locate so I pass inspections. It was much better top end but hurt down low off the line with a stock cam. I thought maybe I should have done ported LS1 heads...

BUT then I put a very mild custom Tick cam in and holy cow!! what a difference!! I'm now glad I went with the LS6/LS2 heads. The car hauls and is a total sleeper, idles very close to stock and passes emissions, all on a stock stall, manifolds and cats. . The car is a blast to drive and the installer was very surprised at the performance. At an intersection you cannot tell it is not stock, total sleeper .

IMO the only reason to stay with LS1 heads is cost and if you are not going to do a cam. But if a cam is ever in the future you will be glad you have the LS6 heads.
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Originally Posted by BBATCAR
I just finished my "sleeper" and I have to pass emissions. Originally I had a heads only car with 799 Ported heads, the 799 stamp is very hard to locate so I pass inspections. It was much better top end but hurt down low off the line with a stock cam. I thought maybe I should have done ported LS1 heads... BUT then I put a very mild custom Tick cam in and holy cow!! what a difference!! I'm now glad I went with the LS6/LS2 heads. The car hauls and is a total sleeper, idles very close to stock and passes emissions, all on a stock stall, manifolds and cats. . The car is a blast to drive and the installer was very surprised at the performance. At an intersection you cannot tell it is not stock, total sleeper . IMO the only reason to stay with LS1 heads is cost and if you are not going to do a cam. But if a cam is ever in the future you will be glad you have the LS6 heads.
Exactly, comes down to budget.. The same can be said about going aftermarket heads vs a 243 even

Comes down to how much cash you have
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I'm guessing that if the OP sent his factory GM castings of "whatever the **** number" to Tony Mamo, Called Martin @ Tick for the "can't hear ****" camshaft, and set his car up to hook on the street with the Money Maker:
The local Mustang kiddies are gonna feel T-Bagged....
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Originally Posted by axe murderer
Ton of postings about the difference between 241 & 243 heads, ports & chamber design are different & FWIW LS6 243s have light weight valves.

If you don't want people to know what castings you have get 799s & mill the visible # off, I have GM blem castings & the top 799 was removed buy the place I bought them because they're blems but is still visible from the deck side.

My 243s only have the # on top so if it's removed & you ever want to sell them guys may give you a hard time about it.
Only 02-04 Z06 and 04-05 CTS-Vs have the lightweight sodium filled valves.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
I'm guessing that if the OP sent his factory GM castings of "whatever the **** number" to Tony Mamo, Called Martin @ Tick for the "can't hear ****" camshaft, and set his car up to hook on the street with the Money Maker: The local Mustang kiddies are gonna feel T-Bagged....
Never a dull piece of advice from you, huh?

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Originally Posted by BBATCAR
I just finished my "sleeper" and I have to pass emissions. Originally I had a heads only car with 799 Ported heads, the 799 stamp is very hard to locate so I pass inspections.
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Did you have to pass a smog test or a referee inspection...?
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Originally Posted by joecar
Did you have to pass a smog test or a referee inspection...?
I had to go to a "Star Certified" station. I can tell you they spend about 15 minutes under the hood with a flashlight. Not sure all they were looking at but it passed visual inspection and smog test.

Someone else I know has heads and 222/222 cam in his GTO and had to go to a Referee and passed no problems.


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