looking for a good baby cam
looking for a good baby cam looking for a good cam to go with my setup. I have a 99 z28 a4 slp long tubes and catted y pipe, slp lid, free mods, ported tb, powerbond udp, mufflex 4" flowmaster catback, frost tune and a ptc 3200 stall with 3.23 gears. Car has 134000 miles and its a weekend warrior. Im looking for a cam where my shift points will be 6400 rpm trying to keep this motor alive for awhile. No emissions are required in my area. What would be a good cam for me?
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CAMMOTION EPS lobes something like 225*/229* .600"/.580"
LSA 116*+2* Just my .02 Worth it to talk with Kip @ EPS, Matin @ Tick,
Or Pat G. For $50.00 more get custom & Be Happy!
LSA 116*+2* Just my .02 Worth it to talk with Kip @ EPS, Matin @ Tick,
Or Pat G. For $50.00 more get custom & Be Happy!
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Sound can be managed by the lobe separation angle and the tune on the car....
Let's take a 224 cam for example.
A 224 cam on a 111-112 LSA will have some chop/thump to it.... A 224 cam on a 115-116 LSA will be rather tame at idle, barely noticeable.
Let's take a 224 cam for example.
A 224 cam on a 111-112 LSA will have some chop/thump to it.... A 224 cam on a 115-116 LSA will be rather tame at idle, barely noticeable.
In that case you want something with between 0-4 degrees overlap. Overlap is (IN+Eh duration)/2-(2*lsa) so the cam above would have roughly -5 overlap. Not exactly wht you want for sound if you want it choppy.
My official recommendation is something like a 226/230 113+2 on eps lobes. With 2 degrees of overlap it will drive pleasent but you'll know somethings there. The next steup up from that would be to grind it on a 112 lsa giving 4 degrees overlap. Or 230/234 on a 113+3 which gives 6 degrees. All those cams will make peak power around 6200 so a 6500 or a tad higher rpm shift point is pretty optimal.
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Just my 2 cents but you may want to look at the gm hot cam. I love it myself, good luck
I just looked the numbers up lift intake .525 exaust .525 @ 50 duration 219,228 lsa 112 hope it helps
I just looked the numbers up lift intake .525 exaust .525 @ 50 duration 219,228 lsa 112 hope it helps
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EPS cams come in 4 degree increments unless something has changed.
The more you have the more power you make and the choppier it gets however anything over 4 degrees you start to have trade offs, and anythign over 8 is debatable to be a DD.
Or 230/234 on a 113+3 which gives 6 degrees.
The more you have the more power you make and the choppier it gets however anything over 4 degrees you start to have trade offs, and anythign over 8 is debatable to be a DD.
Or 230/234 on a 113+3 which gives 6 degrees.
I don't know how to match a cam with a stall speed but I think this cam could be strong at 6400 rpm. It has only 6 degrees of overlap so it should be very streetable. It opens the intake valve at 4 degrees before TDC so it should have a good amount of lift by the time the piston starts sucking on the intake port. The exhaust closes 2 degrees after TDC so it should carry RPM while keeping reversion in check. The intake valve closes at 44 degrees so it gets a bit more fill than the 42* that a LS6 intake likes to have. It has good dynamic compression and good piston to valve clearance. The exhaust opens at 46 degrees so it squeezes more out of the power stroke but it's not enough to clear the chamber at high rpm. I suspect the intake charge would suffer contamination from exhaust gasses around 6600 to 6800 rpm. I think the power would drop fast after that and it would be a bad choice for nitrous.
Still, irocurpony8489 has a nice exhaust setup so this cam would be close to what he is looking for. It would sound "noticable" too.
What lift would be good for it ?
Still, irocurpony8489 has a nice exhaust setup so this cam would be close to what he is looking for. It would sound "noticable" too.
What lift would be good for it ?
http://www.flowtechinduction.com/fti...shaft-package/
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...1-ls6-engines/
these two look like they would fit my needs anybody try these?
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...1-ls6-engines/
these two look like they would fit my needs anybody try these?
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Lunati has some nice custom grinds out there.
I'd probably look more in the 218-220 range on the intake and 224-226 range on the exhaust, while keeping overlap to a minimum and lift under .600". Once you start going with more duration and tighter lobe separation angles, with that stall and those gears, I just don't think you'll be happy with the engine's low and mid-range responsiveness.
I'd probably look more in the 218-220 range on the intake and 224-226 range on the exhaust, while keeping overlap to a minimum and lift under .600". Once you start going with more duration and tighter lobe separation angles, with that stall and those gears, I just don't think you'll be happy with the engine's low and mid-range responsiveness.
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I would for sure get ahold of Martin with Tick Performance and discuss your needs with him and see which cam he reccomends for you. I used him when I bought a cam kit and found him very helpful and had a great overall experience and found top notch customer service.
It looks to me like the torquemax SNS stage 1 and street heat stage 1 both fit the bill of your requirements. And I would personally reccomend the mild version of torquemax SNS stage 2 because I have experience in my past of going too small on cam selection and regretting not going bigger. You should be able to find a few dyno results threads for each of these cams.
TM SNS St 1. 223/227 111. 3* overlap
St Heat St 1. 225/228 112. 2.5* overlap
TM SNS St 2 mild. 226/234 110. 10* overlap
It looks to me like the torquemax SNS stage 1 and street heat stage 1 both fit the bill of your requirements. And I would personally reccomend the mild version of torquemax SNS stage 2 because I have experience in my past of going too small on cam selection and regretting not going bigger. You should be able to find a few dyno results threads for each of these cams.
TM SNS St 1. 223/227 111. 3* overlap
St Heat St 1. 225/228 112. 2.5* overlap
TM SNS St 2 mild. 226/234 110. 10* overlap
Lunati has some nice custom grinds out there.
I'd probably look more in the 218-220 range on the intake and 224-226 range on the exhaust, while keeping overlap to a minimum and lift under .600". Once you start going with more duration and tighter lobe separation angles, with that stall and those gears, I just don't think you'll be happy with the engine's low and mid-range responsiveness.
I'd probably look more in the 218-220 range on the intake and 224-226 range on the exhaust, while keeping overlap to a minimum and lift under .600". Once you start going with more duration and tighter lobe separation angles, with that stall and those gears, I just don't think you'll be happy with the engine's low and mid-range responsiveness.
The Tick Street Heat Stage 1 V2 Camshaft for LS2 tempted me. 4.5 degrees of overlap would have a mild lope but drive like stock, IVC of 44.5 would give more cylinder filling time than the 228/228 I suggested and the 52 EVO would evacuate spent gasses better too. The 4.5 overlap is all on the intake side. The intake lobe is a LSL though so you would need a decent spring. Not mild like formulaon18s suggested.
Instead of taking an Internet poll I'd just pick the phone up and call these guys.
Geoff @ EPS, Martin @ Tick... Pick your poison. See who you like best and go from there.
I'd much rather see someone talk to a person that understands what they're doing, and get a cam spec'd for THEIR goals and THEIR mods.
Geoff @ EPS, Martin @ Tick... Pick your poison. See who you like best and go from there.
I'd much rather see someone talk to a person that understands what they're doing, and get a cam spec'd for THEIR goals and THEIR mods.
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Since the thread is concerning baby cams I'll figure I'll share a great link to one..... https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/1213394-baby-eps-cam-lays-down-430rwhp-415rwtq-track-results.html
