tallicaboy91

Hey guys my car is a 2001 camaro z28 with all original motor trans etc. Car has 155k miles and I'm looking to build the current motor to get me from 450-500 hp. Looking to see if I can gain some knowledge of what cam, heads, and intake would go great together along with other things like pushrods, lifters and anything else. Thanks alot. Car is a street car.

HCI2000SS

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Wheel or motor hp?

Tuskyz28

Is you on a budget? If not I'll contact the airflow expert.

Darth_V8r

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/732392-recipe-500-rwhp-heads-cam.html

It's in the stickies

tallicaboy91

Wanting to get wheel hp. Kind of on a budget but not. I would like to stay as close to 4k as possible

96capricemgr

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Pipe dream.

kinglt-1

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4k is not going to get you 500whp with a 346 NA.

MeanGreen

500hp and close to $4K? I want to see that! lol

wayland1985

That $4000 will probably cover the new rear end and clutch you'll need for 500rwp.

I just spent $4000 on heads cam and supporting mods, and I'll be happy if I hit anything over 420hp

DREAMZ28

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At those miles, I'd probably build the car from the back forward. A trans, then rear, bolt ons, then motor work. Asking for 450-500rwhp to last in a 155k mile F-Body with a stock never rebuilt trans (if auto, cant see sigs on this phone app) and rear with a 4k budget is unrealistic. You have to think of the rpm it requires to hit 500rwhp in a 346, your trans won't last long, especially if it's been neglected.

You can do alot with 4k without diving into the motor.

If you just want power, chrs1313 ram air, used fast 90/90, full exhaust, tune, would be nice. That's only half your budget. The rest could go towards helping your trans survive H/C power and RPMs.

tallicaboy91

So 4k isn't enough for cam heads and intake? I don't remember saying anything about the diff or transmission. Just wanting to beef the motor up a little. The car sits in my garage 8 months of the year and I'll have a good amount of cash saved and I get about 6k on my tax check. I'm just looking for a street build not anything that goes to the strip.

Taxman20

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The issue isn't taking the car to the drag strip. When you make a certain amount of power, the rest of the car needs to be able to handle it. As another person already stated, you can make more power without making the other upgrades to the car, like the trany or rear end. Yes, it will work, but it wont last long. So 500hp is achievable, but not correctly on your budget. You will end up breaking other parts of the engine itself. You can spend 4k on a turbo setup for the stock engine and make 500 easy. It just wont last long. Might toss a rod on the first real hard run. Or blow the trany up.

So we are only trying to help you do it right the first time, which will save you money and lots of headaches in the long run. Now if you shoot for 400hp, then the rest of the car can stay stock and wont be too much of an issue. There are just limits to what stock components can handle.

HCI2000SS

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Totally different idea here, but you could consider just doing a few basic bolt ons then hitting it with a 100 shot...much cheaper and will get you around that 450 rwhp area. This is exactly what my buddy has done to his LS1, and has all stock stuff like rear end, trans, etc...Of course he doesn't spray too often, but when he wants that occasional extra power it's there, and therefor hes not always stressing the car. Just a thought....

kaharvey88

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I jumped in here to see the responses to your question OP. I'm looking for around the same number or even just 450 would probably satisfy me. I've already got the rest of the car beefed up like DREAMZ28 suggested. Started with rear first, then transmission (M6, it's actually being built now), then I was planning on heads and cam. The car already had all the nice bolt-ons when I got it. So a nice, streetable head and cam package that has a good torque curve and "could" be a daily driven car is what I think we're both looking for.

gagliano7

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-490-rwhp.html

Darth_V8r

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My car is a street car - mods in signature. badly slipping the stock clutch before I even header and cammed. Added headers, still ok. Added cam, rear axle went

You can take the money and build up the motor. Then the car can sit in the garage for eight months until you save up for a new axle to replace the one you broke. Also, the added power will expose weaknesses in your suspension, so you'll need to plan for possible need to replace bushings, shocks, etc. It gets expensive fast. When I did my truck, I did it right - started with the rear, suspension, and brakes and worked my to the motor last. And that was just for a LS2 that is basically stock, except the block is iron.

Taxman20

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So in that build your around 7k. and I doubt that included any labor involved if you built it for the customer. Nice build by the way.

tallicaboy91

I know I will have to upgrade everything else. I am just curious about the motor. I am not 14 yrs old here

tallicaboy91

Look guys I understand I need to beef everything else up first but I'm looking for a good recipe to put me 450-500 whp. Once I get a good recipe that works I will start my build. Starting from suspension , rear end , trans, and then motor!

slow trap

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ebay turbo kit. 340-405 lph pump and 60 lb high imp injectors. put that on your otherwise completely stock car and make good power/torque and great driveability.