6.0 for my 67 --- Need some build advice
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6.0 for my 67 --- Need some build advice
The LS world is huge with options, I have an LQ9 from an 03 Escalade for my 67 camaro. It is a whole dropout motor, with accessories, wiring harness, ECM, and pedal assy. It is the iron 6.0 block with 317 casting aluminum heads, and a truck style intake. The motor has 120k on it. I've built plenty of engines before, but all old style small and big blocks.
First question (I guess kinda obvious, but figured I'd ask), is it worth breaking it all down and doing new bearings, rings, and gaskets.
Second, I've heard many people going with the L92 heads with an LS3 intake, Is there that much more of a power difference over the 317 heads and a FAST intake?
Third, cam and rocker arm setup? out of the million choices, I want a proven stout motor. Not a daily driver, but ride like one. It may see an occasional track day (drag or road course) but mostly just cruise around town with some mean power and a burnout at the snap of a throttle.
I am going to back it with a T56 6speed (don't have one yet, so if you have any leads on one, it would be appreciated). I am unsure what gear I'll put in it, but we will see how everything else falls into place.
I'm not looking to get "800 RWHP on stock bottom end!!!" , but would like a strong running 400+ hp at the wheels.
Thanks for any advise. If I left anything out that is info you need, let me know. Its a work in progress, so plenty of time for changes and decisions.
Finally, not looking to spend a fortune right now, I know I need to put some money into it now, but with that and finishing the car, I just want a strong reliable engine. Once it's on the road a year or two, I'll pull it and consider the turbo, supercharger, or stroking it.
First question (I guess kinda obvious, but figured I'd ask), is it worth breaking it all down and doing new bearings, rings, and gaskets.
Second, I've heard many people going with the L92 heads with an LS3 intake, Is there that much more of a power difference over the 317 heads and a FAST intake?
Third, cam and rocker arm setup? out of the million choices, I want a proven stout motor. Not a daily driver, but ride like one. It may see an occasional track day (drag or road course) but mostly just cruise around town with some mean power and a burnout at the snap of a throttle.
I am going to back it with a T56 6speed (don't have one yet, so if you have any leads on one, it would be appreciated). I am unsure what gear I'll put in it, but we will see how everything else falls into place.
I'm not looking to get "800 RWHP on stock bottom end!!!" , but would like a strong running 400+ hp at the wheels.
Thanks for any advise. If I left anything out that is info you need, let me know. Its a work in progress, so plenty of time for changes and decisions.
Finally, not looking to spend a fortune right now, I know I need to put some money into it now, but with that and finishing the car, I just want a strong reliable engine. Once it's on the road a year or two, I'll pull it and consider the turbo, supercharger, or stroking it.
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I'll go a different direction as the two guys above and advise you to run the LS3 style heads and LS3 intake. The LS3 heads and intake will require a different type of cam, but there are off the shelf cams out there for those heads, or you could just get a custom grind cam from a guy like Ed Curtis, Martin Smallwood, Texas Speed, etc. You'll easily be over 400 rwhp, and likely be closer to 450 rwhp.
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What kind of budget are you looking to have for the engine? I know you said "Not a fortune," but "fortune" can mean six different things to six different people.
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The LS world is huge with options, I have an LQ9 from an 03 Escalade for my 67 camaro. It is a whole dropout motor, with accessories, wiring harness, ECM, and pedal assy. It is the iron 6.0 block with 317 casting aluminum heads, and a truck style intake. The motor has 120k on it. I've built plenty of engines before, but all old style small and big blocks.
First question (I guess kinda obvious, but figured I'd ask), is it worth breaking it all down and doing new bearings, rings, and gaskets.
Second, I've heard many people going with the L92 heads with an LS3 intake, Is there that much more of a power difference over the 317 heads and a FAST intake?
Third, cam and rocker arm setup? out of the million choices, I want a proven stout motor. Not a daily driver, but ride like one. It may see an occasional track day (drag or road course) but mostly just cruise around town with some mean power and a burnout at the snap of a throttle.
I am going to back it with a T56 6speed (don't have one yet, so if you have any leads on one, it would be appreciated). I am unsure what gear I'll put in it, but we will see how everything else falls into place.
I'm not looking to get "800 RWHP on stock bottom end!!!" , but would like a strong running 400+ hp at the wheels.
Thanks for any advise. If I left anything out that is info you need, let me know. Its a work in progress, so plenty of time for changes and decisions.
Finally, not looking to spend a fortune right now, I know I need to put some money into it now, but with that and finishing the car, I just want a strong reliable engine. Once it's on the road a year or two, I'll pull it and consider the turbo, supercharger, or stroking it.
First question (I guess kinda obvious, but figured I'd ask), is it worth breaking it all down and doing new bearings, rings, and gaskets.
Second, I've heard many people going with the L92 heads with an LS3 intake, Is there that much more of a power difference over the 317 heads and a FAST intake?
Third, cam and rocker arm setup? out of the million choices, I want a proven stout motor. Not a daily driver, but ride like one. It may see an occasional track day (drag or road course) but mostly just cruise around town with some mean power and a burnout at the snap of a throttle.
I am going to back it with a T56 6speed (don't have one yet, so if you have any leads on one, it would be appreciated). I am unsure what gear I'll put in it, but we will see how everything else falls into place.
I'm not looking to get "800 RWHP on stock bottom end!!!" , but would like a strong running 400+ hp at the wheels.
Thanks for any advise. If I left anything out that is info you need, let me know. Its a work in progress, so plenty of time for changes and decisions.
Finally, not looking to spend a fortune right now, I know I need to put some money into it now, but with that and finishing the car, I just want a strong reliable engine. Once it's on the road a year or two, I'll pull it and consider the turbo, supercharger, or stroking it.
See related thread 6.0 to 67 Vette.
As people upgrade superchargers many bargains can be had.
The stock components work fine under 6 psi.
Decide on a belt spacing, head location, pin a SFI balancer to stock crank & go searching here, ebay, LS1TECH...
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If your wanting to go with boost just turbo it.
My 8.1 suburban lived 3-4 years on 15-18 lbs with 78mm turbo. I use some old parts off my supra but long story short you could use that set up and spend $3k and make a lot of power on stock stuff. The suburban set up was "cheap".
I Yed off the headers. To feed the turbo, got a intercooler from cx racing off eBay used a 78mm turbo with .96 ar. 80lb injectors and walbro 38xx in take pump. Also wastegate from cx racing. Blew it threw the stock mass air. No clue the power it was making but 8-9k lifted suburban went 13.2. Using 4hi to launch. Would run 4s to 60 on the street on 35-37" tire.
Here is video, figure a Camaro has to half the weight or more it would be fun, and if / when it comes apart your not out a crap load.
http://youtu.be/oVU7MgzzmgI
My 8.1 suburban lived 3-4 years on 15-18 lbs with 78mm turbo. I use some old parts off my supra but long story short you could use that set up and spend $3k and make a lot of power on stock stuff. The suburban set up was "cheap".
I Yed off the headers. To feed the turbo, got a intercooler from cx racing off eBay used a 78mm turbo with .96 ar. 80lb injectors and walbro 38xx in take pump. Also wastegate from cx racing. Blew it threw the stock mass air. No clue the power it was making but 8-9k lifted suburban went 13.2. Using 4hi to launch. Would run 4s to 60 on the street on 35-37" tire.
Here is video, figure a Camaro has to half the weight or more it would be fun, and if / when it comes apart your not out a crap load.
http://youtu.be/oVU7MgzzmgI