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Old Aug 6, 2016 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210
Darth did you ever get a CF Driveshaft? The Bat Cave is VERY COOL! I haven't driven the Z but did Get to drive the "V" from the tuner in Fremont to Abel In Rio Vista what a ROCKET SHIP, punched it on the Highway @ 60 broke the tires loose and was at 120 seemed like a Blink, less than 5 seconds for sure!
I'll be ordering the CFDS after I get the length measurement with the rear in I don't think it'll be that much lighter than the aluminum, but should be much better for NVH. Well, at least NV.
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Old Aug 6, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
that's awesome!! You won't regret it. Either the parts or working with Tony. Did you do the 10mm rocker bolt upgrade? Also, are you gonna do hydraulic or solid lifters? Enjoy the process and working with Tony
That's a good question Darth I'm not sure if upgraded to the 10mm bolts, I will inquire. I'm using LS7 hydraulic lifters for my build. Here is my builds foundation,
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:43 AM
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That's a good question Darth I'm not sure if upgraded to the 10mm bolts, I will inquire. I'm using LS7 hydraulic lifters for my build. Here is my builds foundation,
That's a nice Vette!! I'm jelly!!

In other news, here is how the chassis tear down went:

When I took the torque arm off, this metal/oil mud came oozing out the case:
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Further removal of stuff, and here's an example of how bad the bearings were shot. Video2142.MOV

I'm probably lucky I made it home. Thing is, I've NEVER hard launched the car, and I have NEVER run stickies on it out of fear for the axle. For those of you still on the ten bolt planning a higher end NA build, better budget for the rear. It's not gonna hang on long.

Learn from my poor decisions

Next car I build, the chassis will be first: tubular K, SFC, coilovers, rear axle, etc. Honestly, I would tell anyone to gear it first if you're planning a build, because you're gonna want the gear as you build the motor anyway, and you can get a nice seat of the pants boost now while you're saving up from a good gear upgrade. And the tubular K for all the room to work on the motor going forward. As soon as I put it in, the very next repair I did, I was very glad I had the K swapped and wished I'd done it sooner.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 12:51 PM
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Thank you, Darth.

Yikes looks like you have a mess on your hands.
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Well, the chassis arrived from Burkhart! Got a whole bunch of crap. But between work, family, other ****, I haven't had the time to devote that I wish I could. And it's a one-man show. SO, it feels like its going very slow, but in retrospect, it's been moving along nicely.

First off, on the tear down, the carrier bearings are gone, and the outer axle bearings are gone. it might actually be rebuildable, but needs new axle shafts:




Look what arrived from Burkhart Chassis!



Don't know how well you can see it, but the axle bearings had failed and cut a groove into the shaft



Again, not sure how well you can see it, but the oil in here is loaded with metal grit
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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This is just a post with some parts ****...




Bump Steer Kit



Axle Shafts



Torque arm, DS loop, and cross member, and SFC's



MGW shifter right out of the box!



Third gen conversion spindles.




Here's the axle and center section all nice and black powder coated
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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And some of the installation shots:




Axle with torque arm mounted. no commentary about how messy the garage is!



Axle going in nicely. Not much effort at all



Axle with torque arm mounted



Showing the tunnel mount crossmember



Housing to body clearance. Burkhart mounts the TA low, so I had no problems at all



All that room for the torque arm in the tunnel!



And, fully mounted



Here's the Burkhart third gen spindle mounted up, and the bump steer kit installed
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Some special considerations for true duals. The X-pipe doesn't fit in the tunnel, and almost everything you buy is honestly build for a Y-pipe and a single exhaust over the axle.
It's not that big of a deal, you just need to BFH-mod the tunnel some:



Kooks true duals - no problem. Went right over



Another look at the true duals fitting nicely



Had to BFH mod the tunnel right here



Clearance achieved! It ain't much, but it counts!



Took a break, went to a D-Backs game. My friend caught a foul ball!
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I'm still missing one part I need to get the car rolling, but here are a few other miscellaneous installation items you guys might find interesting:




Strange front brakes - interference between 2-pc rotor and bracket bolt. With the one-piece rotors, I doubt it would have been an issue. Had to countersink the bolt to clear the rotor



2.5" between housing and bumps with the suspension fully loaded - axle housing on jackstands, car weight fully supported by coilovers



MGW shifter mounted on the tailshaft housing



MGW shifter and wideband harness. The harness is four miles long, so I had to cram it into the center console, but keep it out of the way of the shifter. Yeah, I kept the stock handle (for now) and the interior needs dusting. Sue me.
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Wow, nice update! Can't wait for you to get her going again and report back on the rear setup. I like when all you other guys do stuff right before me so I can get the latest feedback before buying
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Coming along nicely for sure. Cool pics too
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Bad *** Darth! Those parts look so good. Coming together nicely. Not much more to do to bulletproof the car now
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Originally Posted by BREWS02WS6
Wow, nice update! Can't wait for you to get her going again and report back on the rear setup. I like when all you other guys do stuff right before me so I can get the latest feedback before buying
Coming along nicely for sure. Cool pics too
Thanks, guys! That's funny! But that's also why I read this site a ton before joining to get all the info I could. Hard part is learning who you can trust when they say stuff. I followed some bad advice too.

Bad *** Darth! Those parts look so good. Coming together nicely. Not much more to do to bulletproof the car now
Thanks! you've helped a TON with this thing - even though you never turned a wrench on it. Appreciate all your time and advice on chassis and suspension stuff for sure!
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You're welcome buddy! Just returning the favor

Can't wait to see this car moving again. Going to be stout and all that power will be usable
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So after a three week delay for a family crisis and a week to catch up at work, I finally got some work done on the car. Mostly just assembling all the odds and ends. Literally all I've got left is the e brake, driveshaft, panhard, and wheels. And the DS simply won't go on. So I investigated and found this:

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Splines are twisted. Also, looking up in the tailhousing, to see if splines on tailshaft were also twisted, found the bushing dislodged. So, I get to drop the transmission. Yay.
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Old Oct 2, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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What yoke is that?
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I think you can pop the tailshaft off and change the bushing without dropping the trans. And do yourself a favor and get either a Strange chromoly slip yoke or a Mark Williams one. It'll stop all that twisting ****.
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Thanks! I was afraid that the TH would leak forever unless I did it on a bench.

As to the yoke, it's the stock yoke. Gonna order a carbon DS anyway, so I'll do the strange yoke for sure. I have been pretty impressed with most everything strange does.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Thanks! I was afraid that the TH would leak forever unless I did it on a bench.

As to the yoke, it's the stock yoke. Gonna order a carbon DS anyway, so I'll do the strange yoke for sure. I have been pretty impressed with most everything strange does.
This is a strange sponsored ride. The baddest radial car on the planet, everything I've ever purchased from strange is top shelf!


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Originally Posted by brobinson216
This is a strange sponsored ride. The baddest radial car on the planet, everything I've ever purchased from strange is top shelf!
dang! How's that thing run??
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