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Old Oct 12, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rednari2
So, if that type of crankshaft is suitable for your needs, why not pick up a good used crankshaft from a junkyard or other source, for say for $50 or so.


I'll take every $50 4" stroke crank you can find me...
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I'll take every $50 4" stroke crank you can find me...
This is really lame. Trying to find a CAST stroker crank. When Scat and other forged Chinese junk are available on the cheap. If that's the budget, you couldn't afford the gas. Jeees!


Get real.
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This is a stroker crank.

Originally Posted by rednari2
This is really lame. Trying to find a CAST stroker crank.


Get real.

Have you read any of this thread...???

That's exactly what he's done...

There, it's real.
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 11:39 PM
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Have you read any of this thread...???

That's exactly what he's done...

There, it's real.
Of course I read the thread. He's chasing a pipe dream. Trying to make a high performance crank out of a cheap Chinese crank is like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Will see what happens.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rednari2
Of course I read the thread. He's chasing a pipe dream. Trying to make a high performance crank out of a cheap Chinese crank is like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Will see what happens.
I understand what you saying kinda but then again what grade of metal is a GM LS7 4 inch crank made from? It just might be the same grade of metal. No offense to you but in some cases if this crankshaft can get in balance it might suit well for a application thats not go be spinning over 7k rpm constantly.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 04:07 PM
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Of course I read the thread. He's chasing a pipe dream. Trying to make a high performance crank out of a cheap Chinese crank is like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Will see what happens.
Easy man...guy is trying to put together a budget 383. He is very aware that it’s not a $1k piece. Besides...you suggested that he find a $50 dollar junkyard crank, have it turned, and use it. Their both Chinese junk. My Callies Compstar is Chinese junk...lets just see what happens with this unit before throwing stones.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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The point was to see if it's a pipe dream or not. The venolia pistons and Bme rods in my 400ci pst motor cost well over 2500 and let's not talk about the crank and heads because it's a damn max effort race motor. This is for fun man so chill out. Not everyone is a brand ***** and not everyone can afford the same parts this is for the guys who want something they can beat up on the weekends without crying over cost.
Rods will be here next Thursday and pistons soon after. I'll keep posting how the build is going.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 05:29 PM
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I also just decided to place my order for a rebuilt lsa superchager as well. Gonna run an ls9 cam and the 241s.

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Originally Posted by Ed Cantu
The point was to see if it's a pipe dream or not. The venolia pistons and Bme rods in my 400ci pst motor cost well over 2500 and let's not talk about the crank and heads because it's a damn max effort race motor. This is for fun man so chill out. Not everyone is a brand ***** and not everyone can afford the same parts this is for the guys who want something they can beat up on the weekends without crying over cost.
Rods will be here next Thursday and pistons soon after. I'll keep posting how the build is going.
Don't let anyone bother you.. I'm following close. I built a small block for my car years ago.. used a Scat 9000 series cast crank, had it off ground on the rods to help stroke some (down to a 2" pin). Used a stock two bolt block, put main studs. Car ran 6.50's on motor , and 6.20's on a 125 shot.. I got it in the 5's on a little more juice..and the engine never broke (I sold it). I now have a Callies crank, callies rods..SB2.2 heads..etc.. but loved my cheap engine.
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I get ya my sb2 brother I'm running the splayed valve with a custom hogans on that motor. I just replaced the 4 valves and all the springs lol it's was crazy expensive.
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Originally Posted by rednari2
This is really lame. Trying to find a CAST stroker crank. When Scat and other forged Chinese junk are available on the cheap. If that's the budget, you couldn't afford the gas. Jeees!


Get real.
Getting some background and history can help place this in perspective.

About 15 years ago an LS stroker rotating assembly from Lunati was about $4000. Some Australia companies explored the idea of doing cast LS1 stroker cranks. Some actually came to market and were successful in the Australian market. Other options became available in the US market for stroker cranks.

Some of us think the idea of an inexpensive cast LS stroker crank is viable in the US market. Scat has definitely sold a lot of cast small block Chevy cranks over the years.

While cast cranks aren't for true high performance use, they can make for a decent street motor.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...australia.html

Harrop in Australia lists an LS1 cast stroker crank for sale.http://https://www.harrop.com.au/sho...-stroker-crank

My RS & TA both have Callies cranks for their LS1 383 & LSA 416 engines but I'm keeping an open mind to the cast stroker crank. It would be perfect for 400 LS for a weekend cruiser that is a fun car but not really a high performance build.

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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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That's exactly what I was saying thank you for the thread links and info.
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I run cheap Chinese headers and exhaust up to the Corsa axle back and it was 900 bucks instead of 1800. It fit and works just fine. My DNJ hyper pistons were 300 bucks with rings. Weighed all the same Sized perfectly. Work just fine.
My point is the OP has been verbally doubtful that this crank is even worth a squirt of llama **** almost expecting it to blow gorilla dick and "yet" it seems to check out just fine Will it hold 2000 horsepower of forced induction???HELL NO
But it seems likely to survive under the umbrella of his build parameters
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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Lol. Yeah pretty much. Its just you see/ read so much crap you can't help but to believe it then when you find out it works its like "but wait mom everyone said!" . I ordered the 6.125 pro comp rods yesterday, still need to order the dss pistons I want.But tonight I bit the bullet and bought this junk

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Its the 383 is coming along slowly but surely.
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
No offense to you but in some cases if this crankshaft can get in balance it might suit well for a application thats not go be spinning over 7k rpm constantly.

Exactly...this will be an excellent option for when I rebuild the 6.0L that powers my 86 dually tow rig.


Ed, I apologize. I didn't mean to muck up your thread, just really want to see this turn out for us guys that can't "break the bank"...
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CattleAc
Exactly...this will be an excellent option for when I rebuild the 6.0L that powers my 86 dually tow rig.


Ed, I apologize. I didn't mean to muck up your thread, just really want to see this turn out for us guys that can't "break the bank"...
I don't see where or how ya did sir. Originally the post was just to show if the measurements were ok to work off of. I wasn't gonna actually start on the motor until after winter and the t/a project but the interest from you guys has me wanting wanting it done already.
alper studs $130
alper spring kit $162
cast crank $190
procomp rods $276
dss pistons $430
241's with rockers $100
ls9 cam $116
balancing will be $200
honing bout $240
ls1 short block $200(came will full rotating assembly so you could say just the block was $100)
A 383 priced at $1828 for everything pretty much if you are building from scratch. Just add the price of whatever gasket set and bearings you choose.Oh and speedmaster does call for the thinner and radiused bearings most other stroker crank makers suggest.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 01:31 AM
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What are "alper" studs and springs?
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 01:36 AM
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More chinese parts lol. Head studs and valve spring kit.
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Originally Posted by Ed Cantu
I don't see where or how ya did sir. Originally the post was just to show if the measurements were ok to work off of. I wasn't gonna actually start on the motor until after winter and the t/a project but the interest from you guys has me wanting wanting it done already.
alper studs $130
alper spring kit $162
cast crank $190
procomp rods $276
dss pistons $430
241's with rockers $100
ls9 cam $116
balancing will be $200
honing bout $240
ls1 short block $200(came will full rotating assembly so you could say just the block was $100)
A 383 priced at $1828 for everything pretty much if you are building from scratch. Just add the price of whatever gasket set and bearings you choose.Oh and speedmaster does call for the thinner and radiused bearings most other stroker crank makers suggest.
Keep in mind that you will have to relocate the cam sensor to the front cover to use that LS9 camshaft, so factor in a couple hundred more for the front cover, timing set, and extension harness.

Have you considered having the crank checked for cracks or other material defects? Having a crank inspected (MPI and/or X-ray) isn't too expensive and might save you from wrecking the rest of that shortblock if they do find something.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 07:24 PM
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Yes sir thankfully I have the cover and gear already just need the extension. Getting it checked for cracks isn't an option where I live otherwise I'd consider it.
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