High mileage rebuild
#1
High mileage rebuild
Has anyone had success rebuilding high mileage LS1's? Engine runs great. No smoke, some leaks but not bad for 222,000 miles. Still has great power. I tried to do a compression test last night but my tester is not working correctly. All spark plugs look beautiful.
Here is my dilemma. I have been slowly collecting parts and saving money to rebuild a 5.3 I have sitting. Already bored 0.020 over. I did not realize at the time I could have bored it to LS1 specs (should have researched a little more). All I need to do this is a set of rods and pistons at almost a $1,000 and leave it 0.020 or rebore to LS1 specs. Or since I have everything just buy some new rings and install everything into the LS.
This is not a max effort build. Just a toy. I have a Fast 92, Nick Williams 92, TSP torqueV2, and getting some 241's cnc'ed just because. What would you do?
Here is my dilemma. I have been slowly collecting parts and saving money to rebuild a 5.3 I have sitting. Already bored 0.020 over. I did not realize at the time I could have bored it to LS1 specs (should have researched a little more). All I need to do this is a set of rods and pistons at almost a $1,000 and leave it 0.020 or rebore to LS1 specs. Or since I have everything just buy some new rings and install everything into the LS.
This is not a max effort build. Just a toy. I have a Fast 92, Nick Williams 92, TSP torqueV2, and getting some 241's cnc'ed just because. What would you do?
#3
That is all I can find. Any tips on where to look? I was looking to upgrade in case I want to spray (100-150shot)later down the road. I would rather finish the 5.3 that way the car is still driveable while I finish building it.
#5
I did a little more looking last night since I had today off and could stay up late. I found some a little cheaper to make it worth continuing the 5.3 build and leaving the 5.7 in the car until it's done. I have heard that about the 4.8 pistons. I will have to look research what I can use and what I can't. I believe the pistons I'm looking at are available in different dome sizes. Currently sitting at a 3.80 bore but gonna bump it to the 3.903
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I did a little more looking last night since I had today off and could stay up late. I found some a little cheaper to make it worth continuing the 5.3 build and leaving the 5.7 in the car until it's done. I have heard that about the 4.8 pistons. I will have to look research what I can use and what I can't. I believe the pistons I'm looking at are available in different dome sizes. Currently sitting at a 3.80 bore but gonna bump it to the 3.903
#7
That is what I am thinking. This motor is eventually going into a truck. Since I do not have a truck yet I figured finish the build, throw it in the Camaro while I rebuild that one to go back into the Camaro. I have been searching for a while now and kind of been waiting on some rods and pistons to come up for sale here. I will give it a little more time before I order new.
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That is what I am thinking. This motor is eventually going into a truck. Since I do not have a truck yet I figured finish the build, throw it in the Camaro while I rebuild that one to go back into the Camaro. I have been searching for a while now and kind of been waiting on some rods and pistons to come up for sale here. I will give it a little more time before I order new.
Do you not already have the crank and rods from the 5.3? If so reuse them.
As for rebuilding the LS1, should just be a straight rebuild. However if the engine has been taken care of oil change wise and hasn't been overheated.. and also has no issues like you said. I would leave it alone. I've ALWAYS had better luck with used OEM motors than rebuilds. I've been a tech near 20 years and I've seen people try everything. HIGH end 6k rebuilds and OEM engines are the best. I would use a used high mile engine (that's been maintained) over a lower cost rebuild ANY DAY.
I just did head gaskets yesterday on a 2007 suburban that had 250k on it. All the hatch marks were still in the cylinders, it didn't smoke, and it idled smooth as a brand new truck. No way in hell i'd tear into that motor and rebuild it...
Most people are scared of high mileage motors because in theory, it sounds bad, but I've beat the living dog **** out of high mileage motors, made them into high rpm all motor motors, boosted them, nitrous etc. It has never bitten me in the ***. As long as the maintenance has been kept up with and they don't get over heated they don't really see as much wear as you would think and the internal components don't weaken, so what's the point of rebuilding if there isn't anything wrong? If i were you i'd just run the **** out of that 220k motor.
#9
I gave the pistons away because it had to be bored. I am also a mechanic with 20 plus years. The car has been well maintained by me. Never overheated or anything. I have been wanting to put a cam in it but am afraid I will see the bearings worn. But who knows. I have dragged raced, road course and autox this car with the same engine and no issues. Granted it was never every weekend but when she was younger I didn't think twice about it. I have Express van at work that we maintain and repair that have engine issues between the 250,000 and 450,000mile mark. All usually different reasons for replacement. Oh and I'm not scared to run her I'm just wondering how much longer before she pops something. It runs just as good as the day I got it. Still amazing has mileage and all.
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I gave the pistons away because it had to be bored. I am also a mechanic with 20 plus years. The car has been well maintained by me. Never overheated or anything. I have been wanting to put a cam in it but am afraid I will see the bearings worn. But who knows. I have dragged raced, road course and autox this car with the same engine and no issues. Granted it was never every weekend but when she was younger I didn't think twice about it. I have Express van at work that we maintain and repair that have engine issues between the 250,000 and 450,000mile mark. All usually different reasons for replacement. Oh and I'm not scared to run her I'm just wondering how much longer before she pops something. It runs just as good as the day I got it. Still amazing has mileage and all.
#11
This is true. I may get a wild hair and pull the cam to see what the bearings look like. That's the only way I will know about it. The 5.3 build is taking me longer than I planned. Don't they all tend to do that
#13
I have read a lot about that lately too. It would be nice to know for sure without spending that money. The more I read and look around about all this the more I am thinking just pull the LS1 and freshen it up with everything I have for the 5.3. Sell the 5.3 and if I need one or feel the need for one I will find one running. Anyone want a 5.3 already bored to 3.80"? lol
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Has anyone had success rebuilding high mileage LS1's? Engine runs great. No smoke, some leaks but not bad for 222,000 miles. Still has great power. I tried to do a compression test last night but my tester is not working correctly. All spark plugs look beautiful.
Here is my dilemma. I have been slowly collecting parts and saving money to rebuild a 5.3 I have sitting. Already bored 0.020 over. I did not realize at the time I could have bored it to LS1 specs (should have researched a little more). All I need to do this is a set of rods and pistons at almost a $1,000 and leave it 0.020 or rebore to LS1 specs. Or since I have everything just buy some new rings and install everything into the LS.
This is not a max effort build. Just a toy. I have a Fast 92, Nick Williams 92, TSP torqueV2, and getting some 241's cnc'ed just because. What would you do?
Here is my dilemma. I have been slowly collecting parts and saving money to rebuild a 5.3 I have sitting. Already bored 0.020 over. I did not realize at the time I could have bored it to LS1 specs (should have researched a little more). All I need to do this is a set of rods and pistons at almost a $1,000 and leave it 0.020 or rebore to LS1 specs. Or since I have everything just buy some new rings and install everything into the LS.
This is not a max effort build. Just a toy. I have a Fast 92, Nick Williams 92, TSP torqueV2, and getting some 241's cnc'ed just because. What would you do?
#15
I sold it once during hard times and was lucky enough to get her back. I will never do that again. I bought the car with 54,000 miles on it back in 2004 and I have put on almost all the miles myself. I sold it to a friend that sold it back to me. I don’t think he hardly drove it at all. I am going to rebuild it and sell the 5.3 block now. Thank you all for your input