Camshaft Crossroads - Summit Comparison
Camshaft Crossroads - Summit Comparison As if there are not enough threads full of camshaft questions I'll throw another one at the board.
I just picked up a '99 Camaro w/stock internals as far as I have been told, has Hooker Blackheart mid-length headers with their dual exhaust system, FTI 4000 converter, Frost tune, SLP lid. and Racestar wheels. The only weight removed is the front sway bar and spare tire/jack. It has run 12.0's at M.I.R. I am east of Pittsburgh so I'd guess that 12.0 would be 12.3+ or so at Keystone Raceway which is close to me.
I will use the car for weekend bracket races and the occasional drive to work and around town in the summer. This wont be the beast that I would like it to be, not yet anyway. The car has 142K miles, runs good, but I am not pulling the heads at this point. What is baffling is the casting # has been milled off the heads. The previous owner wasn't aware if they had been changed or not.
So my plan is only to swap to an LS6 intake and add a small cam and tune it myself. I was looking at the following cams:
Summit SUM-8701 Stg 2 truck 218/227 .523/.524 112, $297.99, The GM hot cam copy, big noise, small power
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 1 LS 222/223 600/575 115+3, $289.99, Mavn's Ghost cam
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 2 LS 226/238 600/600 113+3, $289.99
Summit's competitor 555-200582 228/230 585/585 112, $269.99
Keeping in mind this isn't max effort, rather a price play for this upcoming season, not pulling heads, not changing lifters only valve springs and seals. And not knowing if the heads have been milled, I like the last two cams, and can hopefully get a feel for PTV once I would install w/o pulling the heads. So go ahead, flame on, all comments welcome.
I just picked up a '99 Camaro w/stock internals as far as I have been told, has Hooker Blackheart mid-length headers with their dual exhaust system, FTI 4000 converter, Frost tune, SLP lid. and Racestar wheels. The only weight removed is the front sway bar and spare tire/jack. It has run 12.0's at M.I.R. I am east of Pittsburgh so I'd guess that 12.0 would be 12.3+ or so at Keystone Raceway which is close to me.
I will use the car for weekend bracket races and the occasional drive to work and around town in the summer. This wont be the beast that I would like it to be, not yet anyway. The car has 142K miles, runs good, but I am not pulling the heads at this point. What is baffling is the casting # has been milled off the heads. The previous owner wasn't aware if they had been changed or not.
So my plan is only to swap to an LS6 intake and add a small cam and tune it myself. I was looking at the following cams:
Summit SUM-8701 Stg 2 truck 218/227 .523/.524 112, $297.99, The GM hot cam copy, big noise, small power
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 1 LS 222/223 600/575 115+3, $289.99, Mavn's Ghost cam
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 2 LS 226/238 600/600 113+3, $289.99
Summit's competitor 555-200582 228/230 585/585 112, $269.99
Keeping in mind this isn't max effort, rather a price play for this upcoming season, not pulling heads, not changing lifters only valve springs and seals. And not knowing if the heads have been milled, I like the last two cams, and can hopefully get a feel for PTV once I would install w/o pulling the heads. So go ahead, flame on, all comments welcome.
Last edited by ironmanLS1; Jan 25, 2019 at 05:52 PM.
Our high lift hot cam is another choice to throw in there, but with a 4k stall and those med cams you would kill your power band when it flashes or launching.
Our high lift asa cam would be a much better option. 499 for cam and pac1219 beehives.
Our high lift asa cam would be a much better option. 499 for cam and pac1219 beehives.
Thanks, also a good option.
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As if there are not enough threads full of camshaft questions I'll throw another one at the board.
I just picked up a '99 Camaro w/stock internals as far as I have been told, has Hooker Blackheart mid-length headers with their dual exhaust system, FTI 4000 converter, Frost tune, SLP lid. and Racestar wheels. The only weight removed is the front sway bar and spare tire/jack. It has run 12.0's at M.I.R. I am east of Pittsburgh so I'd guess that 12.0 would be 12.3+ or so at Keystone Raceway which is close to me.
I will use the car for weekend bracket races and the occasional drive to work and around town in the summer. This wont be the beast that I would like it to be, not yet anyway. The car has 142K miles, runs good, but I am not pulling the heads at this point. What is baffling is the casting # has been milled off the heads. The previous owner wasn't aware if they had been changed or not.
So my plan is only to swap to an LS6 intake and add a small cam and tune it myself. I was looking at the following cams:
Summit SUM-8701 Stg 2 truck 218/227 .523/.524 112, $297.99, The GM hot cam copy, big noise, small power
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 1 LS 222/223 600/575 115+3, $289.99, Mavn's Ghost cam
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 2 LS 226/238 600/600 113+3, $289.99
Summit's competitor 555-200582 228/230 585/585 112, $269.99
Keeping in mind this isn't max effort, rather a price play for this upcoming season, not pulling heads, not changing lifters only valve springs and seals. And not knowing if the heads have been milled, I like the last two cams, and can hopefully get a feel for PTV once I would install w/o pulling the heads. So go ahead, flame on, all comments welcome.
I just picked up a '99 Camaro w/stock internals as far as I have been told, has Hooker Blackheart mid-length headers with their dual exhaust system, FTI 4000 converter, Frost tune, SLP lid. and Racestar wheels. The only weight removed is the front sway bar and spare tire/jack. It has run 12.0's at M.I.R. I am east of Pittsburgh so I'd guess that 12.0 would be 12.3+ or so at Keystone Raceway which is close to me.
I will use the car for weekend bracket races and the occasional drive to work and around town in the summer. This wont be the beast that I would like it to be, not yet anyway. The car has 142K miles, runs good, but I am not pulling the heads at this point. What is baffling is the casting # has been milled off the heads. The previous owner wasn't aware if they had been changed or not.
So my plan is only to swap to an LS6 intake and add a small cam and tune it myself. I was looking at the following cams:
Summit SUM-8701 Stg 2 truck 218/227 .523/.524 112, $297.99, The GM hot cam copy, big noise, small power
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 1 LS 222/223 600/575 115+3, $289.99, Mavn's Ghost cam
Summit SUM-8715 Stg 2 LS 226/238 600/600 113+3, $289.99
Summit's competitor 555-200582 228/230 585/585 112, $269.99
Keeping in mind this isn't max effort, rather a price play for this upcoming season, not pulling heads, not changing lifters only valve springs and seals. And not knowing if the heads have been milled, I like the last two cams, and can hopefully get a feel for PTV once I would install w/o pulling the heads. So go ahead, flame on, all comments welcome.
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One thing is for sure. You’ve got the converter for a big a$$ cam. If this is a mild street car and looking at the cams you’re considering you might wanna drop down to a converter in the low 3’s.
None, same deal, machined off.
Couldn't make up my mind what I wanted to do, no cam, small cam, medium cam. Finally decided to pull the heads off and see what I got.
I know the intake had been off before but can't tell about the heads yet. The lifters look great at 140K+ miles although I am going to replace them with new ones.
Just ordered the Summit stage 2 LS cam. Looking forward to seeing what it will do come spring.
I know the intake had been off before but can't tell about the heads yet. The lifters look great at 140K+ miles although I am going to replace them with new ones.
Just ordered the Summit stage 2 LS cam. Looking forward to seeing what it will do come spring.
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A 4000 stall will be absolutely perfect for what the op is looking to do. Op would be leaving a lot on the table with shift extensions if op were to go to a 3200 as opposed to the current 4000 with the planned setup.
why do you say he will be leaving alot on the table? i talked with summit and they said the 3200 stall would work very nicely with there stg2 cam. i sometimes fine that a 4000 is a little lazy on the road but at the track it might shine more then on the road. maybe a 3600 is a happy place.
why do you say he will be leaving alot on the table? i talked with summit and they said the 3200 stall would work very nicely with there stg2 cam. i sometimes fine that a 4000 is a little lazy on the road but at the track it might shine more then on the road. maybe a 3600 is a happy place.
The 4000 will come out of the hole harder and be a little faster down the track due to the higher STR and shift extensions.
I had a Yank SS3800, after having it I wouldn't go smaller, if I did the smallest would be a 3600. And I had a stock cam. It was also a daily driver that saw 500-1000 miles a week. On a street car I also think 4k is enough. 3600-4000 is a great stall on a F body. I'd say leave the 4k and higher for the track duty cars and weekend warriors.