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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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HOW MUCH RWHP WILL STOCK LS6 HEADS STAMPED 243 GIVE YOU OVER LS1 HEADS #241. ENGINE IS STOCK LOWER END HAS A 600 LIFT 231 DURATION CAM, HEADERS, TRU DUALS, COLD AIR KIT.

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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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depends on what mods the car has....????
cam? headers? other bolt ons? turbo? be more specific!
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M6HuggerSS
depends on what mods the car has....????
cam? headers? other bolt ons? turbo? be more specific!

how bout for a mild cam, headers and cat-back?
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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Well, with a mild cam like the '02 LS6 cam, and the LS6 heads, dual exhaust you get 405 fwhp...

Stock LS1 cam, 241 heads, single exhaust 350 fwhp...

There you go...

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HOW MUCH RWHP WILL STOCK LS6 HEADS STAMPED 243 GIVE YOU OVER LS1 HEADS #241?
M6 is correct in that without knowing what else you have done, it is hard to say. But I took your question to mean a stock for stock exchange. I see now you say a mild cam. Seeing as how the LS6 has a mild cam, relative to the LS1, anyway, I would probably assume you are going to trump the LS6 cam and go with maybe 220 duration at .050 lift-.550 max. lift, etc. In that case, since the stock LS6 cam would be a little down on power compared to this "220-.550" cam you are theoretically installing, and given the fact the LS6 is rated at 405 horses stock, I would think you would pick up around 80 horsepower or so, again keeping in mind that a stock LS6 has 60 horse more than a stock LS1 (depending on model years). OOOOOOPPSS!!! This is at the flywheel, and you asked RWHP! I would say 40 to 50 at the rear wheels would be a safe bet. FWIW!!
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20-30 rwhp and that is pushing it.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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HOW MUCH RWHP WILL STOCK LS6 HEADS STAMPED 243 GIVE YOU OVER LS1 HEADS #241. ENGINE IS STOCK LOWER END HAS A 600 LIFT 231 DURATION CAM, HEADERS, TRU DUALS, COLD AIR KIT.
thanks for editing your post.... the more info you give the better.... is this a M6 or A4?
id guess with what you have listed......

ls1 heads 370rwhp
ported ls1 heads 390rwhp
ls6 heads 400rwhp
ported ls6 420rwhp

just a guess.....
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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well, I dyno'd last night.

I have LS6 heads, G5X3 cam, LS6 manifold, lid, longtubes + true duals, and I made 406RWHP
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That looks like a wierd torque curve to me
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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Sorry I don't see stock LS6 heads making more power than even respectable stage I ported ls1 heads. Keep dreaming.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 04:30 AM
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LS6 heads with no cam change on an LS1 will give you around 20 rwhp.
1- They are 0.5 bump in CR
2- They flow around 15cfm more

Add a 231/600 lift cam for another 30rwhp

so I would say ~ 40-50rwhp
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Thanks, Predator. That is about what I figured/guessed also. I saw one post that said 20 to 30 at rear wheels would be pushing it. I would be mighty disappointed/mad if after all that work and money I only got 20 or 30 more. What he needs to keep in mind here is that the power is the sum of all cylinders together. What I mean is, 20 to 30 at the rear is easily doable with a cam only. Like you pointed out, people forget that the LS6 heads not only flow better, but bump compression also. Breaking down the power increase by cylinder, a 20 horse gain/8 (total cylinders)= what, a 2.5 horse gain per cylinder? A very low estimate IMO, not a pushing it figure. With the cam and heads he is talking, a 5-6 horse gain per cylinder would be very much an "in the ballpark" figure.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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ls1 heads 370rwhp
ported ls1 heads 390rwhp
ls6 heads 400rwhp
ported ls6 420rwhp
wow... id say i guessed it damn close! nice numbers man....
are graphs are very similar exept i make a little more torque down low.....
looks like you reved it to like 6800!!! wow... that cam must really scream!
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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I havent dynoed or tuned yet but my car runs great after the heads and cam...
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