Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

Alright guys I need help ASAP, as im about to go nuts. I recently sold my TSP 231/237 & steped down to the FMS f13. I was doing the swap last night, got the ported LS6 oil pump on & the O-ring seated properly. LS2 timing chain complete & reinstalled everything just like I did when I did my 231/237 swap. I didnt change the dual springs as they only have 3000 on them. The same with the TSP CM 7.4 PR's. Got everything torqued down to specs, toped off the oil & coolant. Started it up. The oil pressure jumped to about 50 psi & held there. So that was a relief. Then here comes the problem. I had a ticking noise coming form the front of the drivers side valve cover. The more rpm the car goes through the louder the ticking. We let it idle for about 10 mins, shut it off, pulled the valve cover checked the PR's on the front cylinder. Checked the bolts on all the lifters. & all seemed fine. Put it all back together & started the car again. the ticking seem like it quite down a little. but its still there. Any clue what this could be? or where to start? I really need to get this thing going ASAP. Its not missing, It idles fine, still on my 231/237 tune, Its not throwning any codes, The cam isnt installed off a tooth. I triple checked the dots on the cam sprocket & crank. Its only doing it on the drivers side, seems to be the front cylinder. I havent driven it yet, I want to get this issue worked out first. Ill list what I swaped to from. Any ideas what it could be? I know the LS1's are noisey but this isnt normal. I never had a ticking noise with my 231/237.

Was: TSP 231/237, patriot dual spring kit, TSP chrome molly 7.4 PR's.

Now: FMS F13, patriot dual spring kit, TSP chrome molly 7.4 PR's, LS6 ported oil pump, LS2 timing chain.

Thanks,
Vann

2000_LS1

Did you replace your lifters? Check them if not. I had the same problem until I put in some Com 875-15 lifters with one cam swap. Haven't had it again...yet. Also maybe your rocker arms, they automatically set if I am thinking right. I use YT's but how long would it take the stockers to set? What tq specs did you use as well?

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

I havent changed the lifters, They were fine a week ago, & the car hasnt moved or ran since then till last night. They never ticked with my 231/237 & thats a more agressive cam than the f13. The roocker arms were torqued to 22lbs. I was hoping its something I missed or just overlooked. I was up pretty late working on this problem.

2000_LS1

??? i dunno then

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

Anybody else know?

Redneck Z

iTrader: (3)

I had a ticking after my head and cam install that seemed to be comming from the drivers side valve cover. It sounded like a metallic tick, but turned out to be a loose spark plug wire arching on the header lol.

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

I checked all of that. This is a loud ticking noise. Almost like metal hitting metal.

ABadMother1999

iTrader: (9)

Whenever I had a tick it was one of the following...

Exhaust leak
Bent Pushrod
Lifters were stuck
and the worse of all...

When I over rev-ed the car and all of my valves tapped the pistons... the only good thing about this, warranty covered it and bought me a cam

Goodluck man... I hope its something small and stupid!

2000_LS1

me too. Good luck

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

one last qusetion? If the cam was off on tooth what would happen?

Redneck Z

iTrader: (3)

It would probably run like mine did when I put the coil packs on backwards. Sputtering, backfiring and running rough. I'm sure it's not a spark plug wire since you've already checked that. I could have sworn my tick was comming from under the valve cover, it sounded like metal on metel also. I got All worried for nothing. Good luck with your search.

2000_LS1

Get you a stethiscope, ? spelling, and make sure it's under the valve cover. This way you know for sure. You can go to an AutoZone and they will loan you one for a deposit.

Redneck Z

iTrader: (3)

The stethiscope is a great idea. I could have sworn the tick on my car was comming from under the valve cover, but could not be heard when we put a stethiscope on the valve cover.

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

I have one at my house, & its defiantly coming from under the drivers side valve cover, On the front cylinder. I guess Ill go on a full out investigation to find the problem, It can be that hard to figure out. Well, thanks for the replies guys. Im going to swap PR's from side to side to see if the noise swaps to the other side. I'll go from there...

Thanks,
Vann

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Assuming the timing was off and your cam was large enough... It would sound like metal to metal ticking (or very loud valvetrain noise) because the pistons would be coming in to contact with the valves.

2000_LS1

It would have to be a bigge cam than that though wouldn't it?

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Nope, the timing was off (by about two teeth) on my TR224 and it broke a valve off into the top of a piston. It doesn't need to be a large cam at all.

2000_LS1

Well, that ain't good. Zmny, did you install the cam youself or have a friend/shop do it or someone help? Could the cam be off, that's what I guess I am asking.

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

I installed it myself. I wnet through it yesterday to see if it was off, & its not. I also swapped all the push rods around & now you can hear it at idle but once you start giving it gas it starts ticking pretty loud. Im going to drai the oil later on & put a lil heavier weight in it. I put 5w 30 & thats the 1st time Ive ever put that in it. Im going to go back to 10w30 & see if it helps. Thanks for all the replies.

Vann

Jim Mills

I just had this happen on my car. We had a dead lifter in the car and it was making the same ticking noise that you describe. I would replace the lifters on any H/C type job IMHO