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Old 09-09-2005, 06:20 AM
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anyone else running the 226/226 585/585 112 patriot cam out there? just dyno'd yesterday, with that cam, vig 3800 , stock intake and pulley....made 330/375 this sounds kinda lame to me.......let me know what you got
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What other mods do you have?
Was it tuned?
What was you Air /Fuel?

Trq is nicely up there but such a wide split VS HP it is weird as trq is a product of HP.
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i thought HP was a product of torque..........?
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What are all the mods to the car? That would help
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we need mods
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Did you lock the Torque converter? If the converter was unlocked it could be eating 20+ HP. Tuning?
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Do you have headers, was it tuned, was the converter locked??

Not enough info to tell if your numbers are low.
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Originally Posted by imslow
i thought HP was a product of torque..........?
You, sir, are correct!!! The dyno measures torque and then HP is calculated which is why the numbers always intersect at 5252RPM
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sorry-did the first post in a hurry/pissed
the mods are
all free mods, K&N,lid, MAF ends, ported TB, air/egr!, cam, springs, pushrods, vig 3800,
tuning with HP tuners. the dyno pulls where with the converter unlocked
I am looking for people with this cam, my tuner suspects it might just suck
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and i forgot long tubes, off road y pipe, loudmouth
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T = (HP x 5252)/ N
Or
HP = (TxN)/5252

Where T = Torque (LbFt)
HP = Horsepower
N = Speed (rpm)

No need to pick on that terminology
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Going back TTT,
Can you tune with stock MAF? Changing MAF ends has been known to skew LIFT and such.
Perhaps Jimmy on this board can help with that.

Also if you do not have LS6 intake, this could be worth another 15 hps
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Originally Posted by hardtopSS
sorry-did the first post in a hurry/pissed
the mods are
all free mods, K&N,lid, MAF ends, ported TB, air/egr!, cam, springs, pushrods, vig 3800,
tuning with HP tuners. the dyno pulls where with the converter unlocked
I am looking for people with this cam, my tuner suspects it might just suck

Dynojet?
If so those numbers aren't that impressive. A ported TB vs a very good ported TB can make a difference, who ported it?
As said before as LS6 intake should add some power maybe 15 maybe not but should net at least 10 to the tires.
**** locking the converter that is gay. You dont race with the damn thing locked so dont dyno with it locked.
That is for shop cars trying to sell their packages.
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yes, it was at a dyno jet. Took it to the track, best times were 12.1 @ 113 with a 1.75 60'. i am going to do a compression test sunday to make sure my rings are holding, if they are, i will continue research, consider new cam/finish bolt ons.
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It's an unlocked dyno, that's why the numbers are low. Ported MAF ends on an A4 aren't the best idea either....touching the MAF on an A4 isn't a very good idea.
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Sounds like you have a major intake/exhaust restriction.
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probably not an exhaust issue with 375 ft-lbs.....where were the peak numbers at ?
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Low peak hp and high peak tq often indicates an exhaust or intake restriction. Hp roughly is a measure of high rpm power. At high rpm the engine is moving tons of air in and out. If a restriction is present, the motor cannot breathe efficiently and high rpm power is diminished. I had this problem on my car. I made 350rwhp and 376rwtq. The problem was restrictive mufflers on my duals.
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Default my results from Patriot heads/cam

Just installed & tuned:

PP Stage II 5.3 heads, PP 226/226 .585/.585 112 cam
Dynatech LT's, HF Cats, Borla Stingers
2002 Corvette MN6

404 HP, 383 TQ on a 94 degree day in S. Fla in late August.

I'm extremely happy with my results given the low low price for the parts. In my opinion, the area "under the curve" for this cam was great for my application, as I drive my car daily. The car runs like a banshee on the street, feels very fast. Track times soon.

Dyno sheet below:
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Originally Posted by Joe G
Just installed & tuned:

PP Stage II 5.3 heads, PP 226/226 .585/.585 112 cam
Dynatech LT's, HF Cats, Borla Stingers
2002 Corvette MN6

404 HP, 383 TQ on a 94 degree day in S. Fla in late August.
Now, that's more like it! Really makes the new deal on the PP Stage II LS6 heads mouthwatering for those of us on a budget...
I can't wait to see what those heads do with an F13
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peak tq was at roughly 3200 , horse power flattened out at around 6200 rpms. there should be no restriction other than a lack of ls6 intake, i have full exhaust and no cats. i will find away to post up these graphs, but i still think that im missing some power here. a intake and a underdrive pulley are not going to add 40 hp. i hope its just that this patriot cam is a piece of ****, and that my engine isnt blowing by 40 hp.



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