99Freeze

I have the TR224 and it is really nice. Just enough to hear a little lope and most power at the pedal. I have a SY3500 with mine. So it is awesome on the street. Not to hard but it can blow the tires and give a mean demo. My top end with this cam and stall is insane.

dug

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DailyAluminumBlock had good results with a 224 110lsa 106icl. Made over 400rwhp and didnt need to be revved past 6400. It made a lot of lowend torque. Exactly what you want.

99blancoSS

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Don't bother its not all that torquey. conservatively for those not familiar with a mustang dyno the difference is 8% with some saying as much as 12% to the readings of a dynojet. That means my tr224/w prc is putting down minimum of 415tq and 436hp. The numbers before the heads on a crappy tune were 375, 375. Seriously think about it and look at dyno charts top see what your talking about. Don't get caught up in peak output numbers they dont mean squat in a street car at all. MY 224/224 .563 112 lsa is outpulling a 230/232 .595 .585 112lsa by about 20 hp and tq avg all the way from 2500 rpms to 5800 rpms. Its not all about how big you can make a cam. Its all about the right combination for cubic inches. If you got a stripped down track car built to play in the 6-7k range then its a different story. But for a daily driver or weekend crusing street car peak numbers dont mean poop.

seadoo

I know that is the exact setup I want. he and one other guy with the same custom cam made the same 400hp/400tq and the same 380lbft/360hp at just 2800 rpm on stock heads and bolt ons.
I have decided that I am getting the same custom comp cam 224/224 110lsa 106icl. BUT, im getting LS6 heads, so im thinking of getting it on the xe-r lobe with .581 lift instead of .565 lift.
Dug, do You think that with the ls6 heads, I can take full benifit of the higher .581 lift cam? will it make more trq and hp with the higher lift? if it does, im worried that it will move that 380tq/360hp at 2800 up higher in the rpm band. (which is NOT what I want, I want that kinda power right there)

gnx7

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224/224 112LSA or 114 would be a good choice. My buddy had a TSP 225/225 and it is very strong. With Stage 3 GTP ported 5.3's he put down 430rwhp/400rwtq with LS6 intake/ported TB/headers.

I have a 233/239 112LSA cam in my car M6/3:90's/2800lbs and it is a little soggy below 5000rpm. 5-7,000rpm it pulls like a raped ape.

I'm going to spray with this cam and then next year put in a 228/228 .595/.595 114 stick. I have AFR 205's so the higher lift can be used.

The 233/239 sucks down gas and misses some of the mid range power I want. It does sound like a beast at idle and is very streetable for how big it is. I get 22mpg+ going 80mph on the highway with 285/30/18's out back (24.5" tall).

dug

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Yeah, I would think the extra lift will generate more torque and hp throughout the powerband without hurting lowend. I would also look into milling the heads for more compression. Cams with overlap like a lot of compression. Matching cam timing with compression ratio will give you the power and torque you are looking for. Dont mill the heads too much or else it hurts flow and reduces piston to valve clearance.

Others on this board know a lot more about this than I do.

Schantin

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I'll give another vote for the TR224 112LSA. I have this in my 02 Camaro and it's wonderful for the street. On the dyno I put down 375/363 with this cam, a K&N intake, LT headers, and tuning. The torque NEVER dropped below 350lbs from 3000-6000RPM and never dropped below 310lbs from 1500-6700RPM! Horsepower peaked at 6100... about right for a daily driver. The HP/torque crossover point is 5450RPM. Again, great for a daily driver.

Hope this helps.

seadoo

dug, the ls6 heads already offer better compression then the ls1 heads that D.A.B. used and made 400/400.
so... 10.5:1 CR (or a little more), .581 224 110 106 comp cam = tire hater. which is what I want
the 79 had a vortec headed 406/TH350 in it... I built it for 110% trq. in fact it make 420lbs at 2000 rpm. it would kill a set of tires with a stab of the 2200 stall.
I loved it... but, im going ls1/T56 just so I can drive it on road trips. 1000+ miles and get 25+ MPG and 100% reliablity

Sharpe

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Because the TR 224 doesn't come in a 110 LSA grind. If it did, I would look into getting it in the 110 LSA form. Call Thunder Racing and Frutal and Comp before deciding on a cam. Hell, if they all have very similar grinds (which they do), I'd either go with the cheapest, or whoever I felt was the best at customer service.

tbick

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"224 110lsa 106icl"

which sponsor offers this cam?

seadoo

its a custom grind from comp. cams. but im going thru speed, inc. to get it.
379 for it

tbick

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how will the cam idle, it sounds like a great cam for torque.

davered00ss

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I hope it is the TR224 on a 112 LSA, because I just installed one in the SS.

seadoo

should idle pretty good at 850

skippytheloon

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Do you have a graph of before your heads? I'd love to compare those crazy 3k-6k numbers your bragging about to see just how much I'm missing down low.

http://www.texas-speed.com/images/torquerresults.gif

99blancoSS

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There is a post of it somewhere I'll see if I can find it. I put down 375/375 on a so-so tune. My guess is I left 15-20hp on the table with the tune, maybe less hard to say for sure.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...chmentid=30888
after heads and tune:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/391022-prc-2-5s-installed-224-228-car.html

Its not a graph and those numbers are on a mustang dyno but you'll get the picture. Its a side by side comparison with the fm13 both cars with 5.3 heads one tea the other prc