Now I'm second-guessing my cam choice...
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Now I'm second-guessing my cam choice...
Well, I have a brand-new TSP 233/239 sitting in a box waiting until spring to go into my '02 Z06. I did some research before I purchased it and it seemed like a 'big' cam was the 'in' thing to do. I'm sure it will make nice peak HP but I'm concerned about driveability, power under the curve, etc. It is not a daily-driver, but I would like it to be able to be if needed. Also, my wife drives it once in awhile and I want her to still feel comfortable driving it. I guess the car is so amazing right now (stock) in its ability to be (fairly) fast but still as docile as a Camry, that I don't want to f*ck it up by making it run like crap unless its at WOT. Obviously, I will be getting a tune no matter what.
I'm starting to think that something like a 228 or 230 cam (TR230....Futral F12....etc) might be more of what I really want.....nice torque curve as well as top-end, the ability to still use 6th gear under 80mph, etc. The car is mainly a street car, but I do go to the track (1/4 mi) a few times a summer.
Any thoughts on this scenario? Should I just put the 233/239 in and hope for the best? I know HP goals are sometimes a waste, but I'd like to see 420-ish rwhp (with longtubes, a Halltech or Blackwing, and a tune) and have good driving manners.
Has anybody gone with something similar to the 233/239 and NOT been happy with it, or wished they had gone smaller?
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The 233/239 should be more docile than a TR230.
Check out the TSP Torquer II, an Futral F13, or even an F11. 420ish RWHP is a little out of the league for all the cams you've mentioned.
All in all, a it's not just about the cam, it's about tuning and proper gears to match to contribute to overall drivability.
You should be fine with the cam you've already chosen.
I also see you haven't mentioned Long Tubes anywhere. If no LT's then check out Thunder Racing's CheaTR cam.
Check out the TSP Torquer II, an Futral F13, or even an F11. 420ish RWHP is a little out of the league for all the cams you've mentioned.
All in all, a it's not just about the cam, it's about tuning and proper gears to match to contribute to overall drivability.
You should be fine with the cam you've already chosen.
I also see you haven't mentioned Long Tubes anywhere. If no LT's then check out Thunder Racing's CheaTR cam.
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
420ish RWHP is a little out of the league for all the cams you've mentioned.
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Figure +15rwhp for LS6 heads, so yes, you're getting close (sorry, I'm programmed to think in 241 heads).
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I have that cam on a 112 +2 in my automatic and it would be a little on the wild side for a daily driver, but for a weekend warrior it's just about perfect. In a M6 with a good tune it should be fine. I also think they have changed some things with the cam since I bought mine (XER lobes & 113 lsa), so it should be even tamer.
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TUNE will be what makes or breaks the friendlines of that cam.
It will act up on occasions, that is normal with all cams that size.
To make it short, it will not drive like stock, but its pleasures surely will outweigh its behaviour.
Headers, clutch and 4:10 gears would help a lot, and good tune.
As mentionned above, if you do not want to mod beyond these, then a Stealthier cam should be looked at. Stealth II, CheaTR, GT-11 to mention a few.
It will act up on occasions, that is normal with all cams that size.
To make it short, it will not drive like stock, but its pleasures surely will outweigh its behaviour.
Headers, clutch and 4:10 gears would help a lot, and good tune.
As mentionned above, if you do not want to mod beyond these, then a Stealthier cam should be looked at. Stealth II, CheaTR, GT-11 to mention a few.
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You should be fine with it. Like said, it's in the tune. I daily drove my MS3 for around 6 months, all the while working the tune.
Started off pretty rough, but now that the kinks are worked out, never skips a beat. A hiccup here and there with the ac on, still working on that. Gets decent milage to boot. And I'm still on 3.42s. Proper gearing will make it just about perfect. Don't worry.
Started off pretty rough, but now that the kinks are worked out, never skips a beat. A hiccup here and there with the ac on, still working on that. Gets decent milage to boot. And I'm still on 3.42s. Proper gearing will make it just about perfect. Don't worry.
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Sounds like you probably wanted my cam. 224/228@114. It drives like almost like stock but its an animal at WOT.
Heres my idle with this cam 224 cam-idle
Heres my idle with this cam 224 cam-idle
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i have an F13 on a 112+2 in my 04 Z06 and it has perfect driving maners. my 118 lbs fiance can drive it with no problem. fyi it made 420 rwhp and 396 rwtq and the heads have never been off the car.
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I would go 228 comp XER on 114. Maybe 230 - I have that and it will get your car close to 420 and drivability is ok, not great. IMO that cam with your wife driving is too big around town juts to gain some top end. My buddy has your car and its so nice and tame and fats stock, i think its a shame to kill the drivability for some peak HP.
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Originally Posted by THIRD-GEN92
i believe your ls6 could see 420 rwhp on a smaller cam easy, i had the tr230 with longtubes, and made 413 tuned.
I'm making 451 with a Trex cam (see sig) and stock heads.
Steve