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Old 02-26-2014, 10:10 PM
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New cam retainer plate came. So this is how THICK the gasket is supposed to be? Holy ****, I bet I have been having oil pressure leakage this whole time. It's the original from '99 LOL and I've had it off probably 10 times.

My cold oil psi was only around 47, which I didn't like too much.

Got the cloyes timing set too.

Not messing around this time. I don't want to do this install again for a while!
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Originally Posted by z28SSilvest
I've had that same noise come from my BRAND NEW LS3 with a hot cam in it that came cammed from GM. It sounds like the alternator to me because it only happens like 1 time every 3 months.

Can't possibly be a bad cam.. unless GM screwed up on installing it.
Yours is probably a different issue then. We already proved in here the cams are causing the noise. We are past that point already.

The difference with ours, the noise is 100% constant. Cold/Hot/with 0 miles on the cam/with 10k miles on the cam. Noise never changes. Cams look perfect to naked eye. Only special machinery can pick up the issue.

It is not an install issue either, it's a manufacturing issue.

Yours is prob power steering or alternator.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
Yours is probably a different issue then. We already proved in here the cams are causing the noise. We are past that point already. The difference with ours, the noise is 100% constant. Cold/Hot/with 0 miles on the cam/with 10k miles on the cam. Noise never changes. Cams look perfect to naked eye. Only special machinery can pick up the issue. It is not an install issue either, it's a manufacturing issue. Yours is prob power steering or alternator.
Sorry about that lol. Dont have the patience to read through 17 pages .
Old 02-26-2014, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by z28SSilvest
Sorry about that lol. Dont have the patience to read through 17 pages .
I don't blame you. It took all 17 pages to get to the bottom of it too. It wasn't an easy problem to figure out.

I had to tear my car down twice to figure it out.
Old 02-27-2014, 12:40 AM
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I just got a cam from Comp Cams through Tick, hopefully they have fixed this issue. We shall see.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
Kip offered a few pages back to regrind anyone's cam in here.

I would have just sent it to him tbh.
He charges $200.

COMP is doing it for free.

If this doesn't fix it then Ill buy new from kip.
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Does anyone bother checking end play?
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Originally Posted by joshua022
He charges $200.

COMP is doing it for free.

If this doesn't fix it then Ill buy new from kip.
Ok worth a shot then, good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Does anyone bother checking end play?
I thought about that but don't have the dial indicators to check it.
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Originally Posted by z28SSilvest
Sorry about that lol. Dont have the patience to read through 17 pages .
17 pages? All its showing for me is 13
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You can configure posts per page.
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Originally Posted by joshua022
I thought about that but don't have the dial indicators to check it.
It's a lobe issue, not an end play issue anyway.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
It's a lobe issue, not an end play issue anyway.
I'm still waiting for the issue to be proven. All I've seen are assumptions.
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Originally Posted by KCS
I'm still waiting for the issue to be proven. All I've seen are assumptions.
Um, no, they are not assumptions.

1) Lunati already verified, my cam was sent to them. I have two whining cams from them.
2) The whining noise went away upon swapping to a cam motion cam.
3) Kip already knew about this issue a decade ago and he put his research a few pages back.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
Um, no, they are not assumptions.

1) Lunati already verified, my cam was sent to them. I have two whining cams from them.
2) The whining noise went away upon swapping to a cam motion cam.
3) Kip already knew about this issue a decade ago and he put his research a few pages back.
What was the issue then? All I've read is that QC caught "something" but as far as I can tell, it's assumed its the same issue Kip had years ago with the surface finish of the lobe. Someone else had mentioned their cam was rubbing on the rear cover.
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Originally Posted by KCS
What was the issue then? All I've read is that QC caught "something" but as far as I can tell, it's assumed its the same issue Kip had years ago with the surface finish of the lobe. Someone else had mentioned their cam was rubbing on the rear cover.
I'm the only one who has sent a cam back so far and been through an inspection. It's a lobe surface problem, which may or may not hurt anything. I have heard conflicting info on this so far, but I won't take chances.

The one guy in the video I found, which helped start all my research into the issue, did say his cam was rubbing, but I think he was making assumptions.

The one thing you'll find in all the videos I found and the ones we made, is that all the whining noises sound dead nuts, exactly the same across all our cars.

Also, there was no wear anywhere on my cam, front cover, or retainer plate.
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Originally Posted by mchicia1
I'm the only one who has sent a cam back so far and been through an inspection. It's a lobe surface problem, which may or may not hurt anything. I have heard conflicting info on this so far, but I won't take chances.

The one guy in the video I found, which helped start all my research into the issue, did say his cam was rubbing, but I think he was making assumptions.

The one thing you'll find in all the videos I found and the ones we made, is that all the whining noises sound dead nuts, exactly the same across all our cars.

Also, there was no wear anywhere on my cam, front cover, or retainer plate.
So Lunati told you it's a "lobe surface problem"? Is that the extent of their explanation?
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Originally Posted by KCS
So Lunati told you it's a "lobe surface problem"? Is that the extent of their explanation?
No, that is my summary of it.

Their explanation was very thorough and over my head, but it was related to the lobes, yes.

They reground and repolished the cam.
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I've sent my cam to comp. Greg called me today and said the cam finish was well below there tolerance. .002. Re polished anyway to .001 and is overnighting back to me. He states it was well below gm spec also. Tho my stock cams have a mirror finish. He seemed really helpful. The cam looked fine when I sent it to them. I'd post pics but my I phone won't post them. Looks like I'll find out Friday or Monday what this re polished cam looks like.
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Originally Posted by Colt45
I've sent my cam to comp. Greg called me today and said the cam finish was well below there tolerance. .002. Re polished anyway to .001 and is overnighting back to me. He states it was well below gm spec also. Tho my stock cams have a mirror finish. He seemed really helpful. The cam looked fine when I sent it to them. I'd post pics but my I phone won't post them. Looks like I'll find out Friday or Monday what this re polished cam looks like.
Do you mean they were saying it was within spec?


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