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Old 04-21-2006, 03:13 AM
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Default About to buy an 01 vette w/ 550hp. Help, smokes at idle, normal?

Please check out the video! For those of you that know alot about engines, you should be able to tell right away. I'm probably buying this car early next week, but he wants a deposit ASAP because there are a few people after it.

I was told the car smokes because its running so rich at idle. When its revved there is NO smoke.. Do i believe this? Here is a link to the video. (it takes awhile to download) What worries me most.. Is the smoke looks pretty blueish... Its not black like its running rich. The guy said the valvles were new on the rebuild.

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2001 Corvette - CLEAN CARFAX
79500 miles (60k the first 3 years...all highway..woman owner. I've put 6000 on it since Dec 04)
Serious Mods have roughly 2000 miles on them.
All work professionally installed/dynotuned by Futral Motorsports (Www.futralmotorsports.com)

Futral Motorsports 236/239 .600/.611 camshaft
Box stock Dart 225cc heads milled .020 for 11.2:1 compression
Fast 90mm Intake Manifold
Nick Williams 90mm TB
30# FMS Injectors
ASP Underdrive Pulley
B&M Ripper Shifter
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Kooks LT Headers 1-7/8" primaries to a 3" collector
Kooks 3" X-pipe
Borla Exhaust
Haltech Stinger CAI
160 Thermostat
18" C6 Z06 Wheels with Nitto Dragradials in the back (305s) (less than 2000 miles)

Car made 471/415 to the wheels on motor.

Whats a "good" price for this car do you think? Thanks guys!
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this car isnt in louisiana is it?
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this car isnt in louisiana is it?
LOL! I can't tell if that was a joke or not.
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Sometimes blue smoke can mean bad things, or just a crappy PCV. I had some serious blue smoke the past 2 weeks after my h/c install, and i found my PCV valve is cracked in 1/2 and held together with electrical tape. I <3 used cars.

It helped a lot, but there might still be an issue - but point being it could be bad it could mean nothing. Can't really tell ya without seeing it.

Also, Louisiana flood car? beware of those mate. if it were me, anything from the south I'd not touch after Katrina with all the flood cars hitting the market. Carfax isn't the holy graile of car history.
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I would be a little leary of that one... It was hard to tell from the video but it looked like it is only smoking out the left bank, or at least smoking worse out the left bank. I think that would suggest a problem.
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Originally Posted by BOWTIE
I would be a little leary of that one... It was hard to tell from the video but it looked like it is only smoking out the left bank, or at least smoking worse out the left bank. I think that would suggest a problem.
I noticed that as well, but it has headers and an X pipe. It should equal out what comes out each side right?

Thanks so far for all the replies! Keep them coming please!
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if it was easy to fix, the owner would have fixed it.
trust your spidey sense.
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Ask him if it's got cats. Any car with a big cam and no cats will smoke a little when it first starts up... Is it tuned? An untuned car with a big cam can make some idle smoke too...
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Yes, everything was installed/dyno tuned by Futral motorsports. It does not have cats. Its got headers, x pipe, and just straight pipes... Hopefully thats why it smokes!?
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Serioulsy, where is the car located? If it IS in Louisiana, I may be able to take a look at it for you as I now live in Lafayette. As well you may want to talk to Futral directly and see what they know about the car.
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Originally Posted by snake_charmer
Serioulsy, where is the car located? If it IS in Louisiana, I may be able to take a look at it for you as I now live in Lafayette. As well you may want to talk to Futral directly and see what they know about the car.
Yes the car is located in LA. Zip code 70003. PM me or e-mail me if you are close to that location and would be willing to show up and check it out.

I will be calling Futral motorsports in 5 minutes. Hopefully get some comforting info.
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My 02 ZO6 smokes like that when cold. No cats, and stock cam. Doesn't use any oil. Less than 10k, too.
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Originally Posted by exSSer
My 02 ZO6 smokes like that when cold. No cats, and stock cam. Doesn't use any oil. Less than 10k, too.
Good to know, thanks!
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01 Vettes are know of having a potential ring sealing issue. It's caused by sustained high RPM driving. Do a search on the corvette boards about this. Not saying this is a bad car, but budget a re-ring kit in your future if this is the issue.
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Originally Posted by marcus769
Please check out the video! For those of you that know alot about engines, you should be able to tell right away. I'm probably buying this car early next week, but he wants a deposit ASAP because there are a few people after it.

I was told the car smokes because its running so rich at idle. When its revved there is NO smoke.. Do i believe this? Here is a link to the video. (it takes awhile to download) What worries me most.. Is the smoke looks pretty blueish... Its not black like its running rich. The guy said the valvles were new on the rebuild.

VIDEO

2001 Corvette - CLEAN CARFAX
79500 miles (60k the first 3 years...all highway..woman owner. I've put 6000 on it since Dec 04)
Serious Mods have roughly 2000 miles on them.
All work professionally installed/dynotuned by Futral Motorsports (Www.futralmotorsports.com)

Futral Motorsports 236/239 .600/.611 camshaft
Box stock Dart 225cc heads milled .020 for 11.2:1 compression
Fast 90mm Intake Manifold
Nick Williams 90mm TB
30# FMS Injectors
ASP Underdrive Pulley
B&M Ripper Shifter
Spec Stage 3 clutch
LG Motorsports 4.10 gears
Kooks LT Headers 1-7/8" primaries to a 3" collector
Kooks 3" X-pipe
Borla Exhaust
Haltech Stinger CAI
160 Thermostat
18" C6 Z06 Wheels with Nitto Dragradials in the back (305s) (less than 2000 miles)

Car made 471/415 to the wheels on motor.

Whats a "good" price for this car do you think? Thanks guys!
Isnt that Kraest's car
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I was serious when I asked if its from Louisiana... it belongs to my friends friend then... the car was stock until he got it and it hasnt been modded long... sounds like a beast, looks like it runs strong.
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Originally Posted by Dave88z
Isnt that Kraest's car
yeah it is.
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general rule of thumb: if its blue smoke dont buy it, unless its a great deal and you want to do engine work. This is especialy true of a car that has been modded. My car is at 80k miles and 440 rwhp and no smoke ever. Your talking about a car with a bigger cam that has been rev'ed harder and higher and it smokes. I wouldnt buy it unless your getting a great deal, or yuou plan on refreshing the bottom end. This car has aftermarket heads, I dont think its a valve seal issue.
Now I'll look at the vid
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Ok saw vid, cant tell crap from it. Looks like one side more than the other but I really cant tell the color of the smoke. After it runs for a while does it still smoke at ilde? Sounds like a beast I'll say that.
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This car was built early this year and now hes selling it? Must be messed up.

its not normal to smoke at idle. its normal to puff smoke under WOT because its rich but not at idle.



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