valve noise, adjusted rockers a million times
#1
valve noise, adjusted rockers a million times
done a head and cam change. now i have valve noise(rattle,pecking). i installed new comp lifters and one peice pushrods. i removed the valve covers and adjusted rockers a few times still there. cranked car and inspected. there are a few that arnt getting any oil through the pushrods. what to do. ive been dealing with this for a week and a half. getting tired of pulling of the valve covers. need help. PLEASE
#2
Your not gonna like this ansewer.
You may have to pull the head and remove and inspect the lifters.
If you don't have any oil flowing from the lifter through the pushrod, something is not good.
Did you "prime" them before the install?
You may have to pull the head and remove and inspect the lifters.
If you don't have any oil flowing from the lifter through the pushrod, something is not good.
Did you "prime" them before the install?
#7
Originally Posted by RALLDU
im using a ported and polished ls6 oil pump when cold and at wot about 50 psi and at idle warm about 40. i think, preddy sure.
Is there a chance that there is some debris inside the pushrods?
I'm afraid it's sounding like you'll need to pull the head and inspect the lifters.
Did you modify the lifter tray at all?
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#10
I wish I could be more helpful. I'm be no means an expert with this stuff. But is there a chance that the lifters are not facing in the correct direction to receive the oil?
.....The drill mod wouldn't cause your problem IMO.
.....The drill mod wouldn't cause your problem IMO.
#11
no problem but i was kinda wondering that myself but i looked through the performance book for ls1/ls6 under lifter install and i didnt see anything. good question COULD ANYONE HELP ON THIS QUESTION.
#14
Ralldu, it might be helpful to give some more specifics about your set up. Like valve size, cam size, type of valve springs.
And I guess we can't rule out lowish oil pressure as the cause. Low pressure of course could cause a colapsed a lifter of three. I think this might cause oil to not get up the pushrod, maybe.
If you have a pushrod length checker, I think you could diagnose a colapsed ligter. IE if the pushrod checker indicates a disproportionately long pushrod for a given cylinder it would suggest that the lifter is shorter than it should be, in other words colapsed.
And I guess we can't rule out lowish oil pressure as the cause. Low pressure of course could cause a colapsed a lifter of three. I think this might cause oil to not get up the pushrod, maybe.
If you have a pushrod length checker, I think you could diagnose a colapsed ligter. IE if the pushrod checker indicates a disproportionately long pushrod for a given cylinder it would suggest that the lifter is shorter than it should be, in other words colapsed.
#15
Originally Posted by RALLDU
i installed adjustable roller rockers with guide plates.
#16
ill give that a try when i can and try to post a reply asap. thanks for all the info. if anyone else might of had this problem and has a fix please help. thanks everyone for the input. i helps alot.
#17
were you coming from a stock setup?
Lifters direction has no meaning, several post here on that, search or call TSP
If you aree coming from stock setup, your whole valve train will get louder.
Lifters direction has no meaning, several post here on that, search or call TSP
If you aree coming from stock setup, your whole valve train will get louder.
#19
i came from a stock set up. and i dont know what the preload is set at. many people and a few articles ive read informed me to adjust them down while twisting the pushrods till there was drag on them then torque. question: why would half the rockers be getting oil through the pushrods and half of the not, while idle. and the noise sounds like it is coming from the driver side. ive checked everything i could think of. thanks for the input everyone.
#20
Originally Posted by RALLDU
i came from a stock set up. and i dont know what the preload is set at. many people and a few articles ive read informed me to adjust them down while twisting the pushrods till there was drag on them then torque. question: why would half the rockers be getting oil through the pushrods and half of the not, while idle. and the noise sounds like it is coming from the driver side. ive checked everything i could think of. thanks for the input everyone.
Stock LS1 valvetrain is not readily adjustable as is unless you convert to studs & guideplates.
In stock configuration, the way they are adjusted is by the use of different length (the correct length) pushrods, and/or rocker shims (spacers).
To get this right the first step is to measure the preload on the lifter, and measure the rocker to valve geometry... as in the contact patch on the tip of the valve.
I suggest NOT skipping the first step in this process.