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06-04-2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jinxedz
put a 'everything id need for a cam swap' package together and you have a customer ...
Complete Cam Install Kit which includes all necessary GM bolts/gaskets for installation = 43.99
Throw some shipping in there and depending on if you need oil pump/timing set that is the total cost you would be looking at minus oil/coolant.
Let me know if you have any more questions!!
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06-04-2006, 11:11 AM
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As much respect I have for TSP and its products. But this logo sounds little too rice. 82 fly wheel HP? You should just do rwhp before and after on a stock cam with full boltons vs a tuned MS4 cam. Post little more under the curve power vs peak power.
Remember all honda civic with turbo makes 500 fwhp and run 13's.
06-04-2006, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
MS4 camshaft, PRC Dual Valve Spring Kit w/ Titanium Retainers, Hardened Pushrods = 689.99.
Complete Cam Install Kit which includes all necessary GM bolts/gaskets for installation = 43.99
Throw some shipping in there and depending on if you need oil pump/timing set that is the total cost you would be looking at minus oil/coolant.
Let me know if you have any more questions!!
Zach
Complete Cam Install Kit which includes all necessary GM bolts/gaskets for installation = 43.99
Throw some shipping in there and depending on if you need oil pump/timing set that is the total cost you would be looking at minus oil/coolant.
Let me know if you have any more questions!!
Zach
06-04-2006, 02:22 PM
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This cam sounds like the perfect stop gap for my stock '00 LS1 until I get the money for the low compression (read: blower) 402 this winter. My question is, would this be a fitting cam for a larger cube/SC'd motor later on? I'm guessing no, and that's not a big deal but it would be sweet if it was!
06-04-2006, 09:00 PM
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so basically the "new" ms4 is...an ms3 with slightly more intake duration on a slightly tighter lobe separation?
i am disappointed. i was hoping to see a cam comparable to the t-rex with some kind of implementation of the more aggressive (lsk) lobe designs.
i am disappointed. i was hoping to see a cam comparable to the t-rex with some kind of implementation of the more aggressive (lsk) lobe designs.
06-04-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mousetom78
As much respect I have for TSP and its products. But this logo sounds little too rice. 82 fly wheel HP? You should just do rwhp before and after on a stock cam with full boltons vs a tuned MS4 cam. Post little more under the curve power vs peak power.
Remember all honda civic with turbo makes 500 fwhp and run 13's.
Believe it or not, but 82fwhp is what the gains were on an engine dyno. This was a before and after test from a stock cam to the MS4.
We have been doing rwhp numbers as well, but by doing an engine dyno it weeds out all the little variables that come into play.....it shows the true power being made over a stock cam when you can swap cams in 30 minutes and see the gained power. What is more true than that??
Also, Like Jason posted earlier our last test car gained 72 rear wheel horsepower with the MS4 & underdrive pulley
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06-04-2006, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Superjoe
This cam sounds like the perfect stop gap for my stock '00 LS1 until I get the money for the low compression (read: blower) 402 this winter. My question is, would this be a fitting cam for a larger cube/SC'd motor later on? I'm guessing no, and that's not a big deal but it would be sweet if it was!
This cam will work with stock heads
06-04-2006, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by a98ws6
How about if this cam is based towards stock heads/pistons or HC setups???
This cam picked up huge numbers coming from a stock cam and using the stock heads. So this cam does work great with stock heads/pistons and the same can be said for a HC setup.
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06-04-2006, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
Also, Like Jason posted earlier our last test car gained 72 rear wheel horsepower with the MS4 & underdrive pulley
06-04-2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by REDWS6ROCKET
zach, any numbers with prc stage 1 ls6 heads and the ms4 yet. i would think that it that combo would put down some stout numbers!
I am very interested in seeing numbers for this combo: Pacesetter headers, PRC stage 1 LS6 heads with stock valves (non-comp job), MS4 cam, LS1 intake.
By showing number for this combo, poeple with better intakes know they should see more power... Also, as I stated before, the budget builders will love this combo.
Seems like TSP has been hard at work lately, they came out with a great head, then they made it better, now a cam that looks like it will dominate on the streets. Cant wait to see some numbers and see what they come out with next
06-04-2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
im tempted to send back the torquer for this beast
06-04-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by REDWS6ROCKET
i woudn't just keep your set up, i see how good stangkilr's runs with an auto. your car is going to scream
i hear hes been having some bad tranny luck 