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Originally Posted by SVThis
has anyone answered the question about what stall size is need for this cam?
My guess, based on my experience with the MS3 and it's similarity: For performance the bigger the better. Minimum recommended: ~4,000
What do you say, TSP?
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its power ban is like 2800-6800...and i know bigger is pretty much better...but to keep my car still really street friendly id like to go with a 3500 stall or so...but i will go 400 if i have to....
my car only see's bout 200 miles or so a month...
my car only see's bout 200 miles or so a month...
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Originally Posted by SVThis
its power ban is like 2800-6800...and i know bigger is pretty much better...but to keep my car still really street friendly id like to go with a 3500 stall or so...but i will go 4000 if i have to....
The *real* power won't start at 2800. My MS3 doesn't come on till at least 4, and really hits by 4500. Matches perfectly to my 4k stall.
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Originally Posted by SVT THIS
The MS4 is better if you don't mind replacing your dual springs once a year
Not true at all, I have been running a .640 lift cam for at least 28,000 miles and have yet experienced valve float or any other valve train wear (lifters, rockers, valve stems...etc). I have had these springs in my personal car for two years and as far as I know the springs still have plenty of life left on them, one of these days I'll pull them out and compare them to a newer spring to see what exactly the mileage has done to them.
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Damn, I promised my wife I would keep the SS stock. I can see a MS4 cammed 11:1 347, with some ported LS6 heads and a Fast 90/90 combo heading my way when the turbo car get finished. Should be good fun with a 6spd, good clutch and 9 inch with 4.30 gears and 28x10.5 ET drags.
That would make for a killer DD.
That would make for a killer DD.
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
Look for a bunch of dyno results coming very soon guys! How about 550flywheel horsepower with PRC Street Stg 1 LS6 heads!!
The camshaft is running around in several daily drivers right now with nothing but great results! I'm happy with how well this thing comes in making power on the tighter lobe seperations & little bit of advance...
We've even have a few 110 lobe sep MS4's in testing right now!
Our last test car gained 72 rear wheel horsepower with the MS4 & underdrive pulley!
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We've even have a few 110 lobe sep MS4's in testing right now!
Our last test car gained 72 rear wheel horsepower with the MS4 & underdrive pulley!
Bear with me....I'm a newb......
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Originally Posted by silverstreak_ws6
what kind of 60. ft am I looking at with a 4000 stall and 3:73??? anyone got a idea?
Thanks
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its come down to this...G5x3 cam...or the Ms4..i need yall opinion..i plan on running just stock heads..with cam and bolt-ons...maybe spray in the future...ive heard good things bout lg's cam..but the Ms4 cam seems sick as ***...any opinions?
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Originally Posted by silverstreak_ws6
its come down to this...G5x3 cam...or the Ms4..i need yall opinion..i plan on running just stock heads..with cam and bolt-ons...maybe spray in the future...ive heard good things bout lg's cam..but the Ms4 cam seems sick as ***...any opinions?
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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Originally Posted by silverstreak_ws6
its come down to this...G5x3 cam...or the Ms4..i need yall opinion..i plan on running just stock heads..with cam and bolt-ons...maybe spray in the future...ive heard good things bout lg's cam..but the Ms4 cam seems sick as ***...any opinions?
TSP has already said the MS4 clears, with no milling of the heads, stock gaskets. It's your choice on what you want to do, just letting you know since some people do not want to flycut.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The MS4 is quite a bit bigger than the G5X3. It will take quite a bit more tuning and a lot more converter.
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