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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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I're researched heads cam packages for a late model Ls1 build and can't decide on which heads to go with. I have considered Ls6 ported, out of the box Dart 205s and the AFR 205s. Will likely use a 224/228 581, with 114 LSA.

How much less power(peak and under the curve) would the ported LS6ers @ around $1000 produce vs. the AFR 205s @about $2,200. Will also be using LTs and and intake. This is to be worked on an 02 C5 coupe.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. Scott.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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The AFR 's are really good, but pricy. I have been hearing really good things about the 200cc Terminator Heads from TSP. They put out some really good numbers. It just depends on how much you want to spend. Thats the BIG questions. Then it will be a little easier to answer. Also, are you doing the install, or paying for it to be done. Thats more money. Hope this helped a little.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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I'm doing the install with a buddy.

Not familiar with the 200 Terminator heads. Are they comparable to the as cast Darts?
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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AFR is top top top dog for most people right of the shelf.....
Maybe LS6 heads will work fine for you.
I am sure you can find dynos of before and after AFR 205, vs LS6, LS1 heads.
Depends on ultimate goal of the motor....
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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ETP's are the GOD of LS1 Heads! OUT OF THE BOX...

No need to mill like AFR's for higher CR... Mine came with a 58cc chamber...
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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I have the AFR's with a similar cam(228/230 112, .588/.590) Both my tq and hp curve are very flat. The hp curve was still gaining when I hit the rev limmiter.

425RWHP
400RWTQ
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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the ls6 ported are a good way to go
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Thanks guys, appreciate the help and advice.

I guess 420 rwhp is possible with the TSP(or similar) ported LS6 heads with the right cam, intake and LTs.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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TSP did 550 crank HP last week on their Stage 1 LS6 heads with the MS4.

So Id say that you are way safe with 420RWHP with that setup
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Holy crap! 550 crank is like 470 whp. Those heads must be better than what I have been reading and hearing. MS4 cam, I guess that is pretty aggressive.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Holy crap! 550 crank is like 470 whp. Those heads must be better than what I have been reading and hearing. MS4 cam, I guess that is pretty aggressive.
I would like to read more into that, My bet is that number is with full bolt-ons...


I have about 620 crank hp
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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Could a set of ported LS6 Heads, 224/228, 581/588 @ 114, LTs, and a good intake on an 02 Corvette Coupe hit around 420 rwhp with a decent amount of TQ?
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Could a set of ported LS6 Heads, 224/228, 581/588 @ 114, LTs, and a good intake on an 02 Corvette Coupe hit around 420 rwhp with a decent amount of TQ?

Check my sig, i only made 400rwhp...BUT the heads were not ported.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Could a set of ported LS6 Heads, 224/228, 581/588 @ 114, LTs, and a good intake on an 02 Corvette Coupe hit around 420 rwhp with a decent amount of TQ?
Yeah. You should be right there with a good tune.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Looking at the flow numbers on the ported LS6 heads they are comparable to 200cc Terminator #s. With the same spring package the LS6 is $1250 and the Terminators are $1900. I dont see the runner or chamber size on the LS6 heads but assume ther are similar. What is better about the Terminators?
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