Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-19-2001, 05:15 PM
  #1  
Launching!
Thread Starter
 
Jim Mills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

I'm not sure if I want to do the FTRA... what kind of gains over the FRA will I see??? I have a 2001 Firehawk T/A basically stock right now with the MTI clear lid and K&N.

Thanks Guys. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Old 12-19-2001, 05:54 PM
  #2  
Speed freak
 
Supertrapped's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,477
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

IMO.....I would go with the FTRA. Its definitely worth it <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Old 12-19-2001, 06:46 PM
  #3  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Fast Toys Performance Parts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

Definitely go with the FTRA. All our testing was done over and above the results achieved with the FRA mod. We still saw 2 tenths and 1.5-2.0 MPH in the 1/4. We also saw 5-10 % improvement in fuel economy.
Old 12-19-2001, 06:49 PM
  #4  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
2K2 LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Crandall Texas
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

Ho wmuch does the ftra cost?
Old 12-19-2001, 06:53 PM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
 
BIGBOS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chi-Town, IL
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

I did the Free Ram Air, but I am interested in doing the FTRA... <img src="graemlins/gr_xmas.gif" border="0" alt="[santa]" />
Old 12-19-2001, 06:56 PM
  #6  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
2K2 LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Crandall Texas
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

Here's a pic of my free ram air. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">

Old 12-19-2001, 07:23 PM
  #7  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (2)
 
98TAauto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Warsaw, Va
Posts: 4,316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

to do the FTRA you have to do the FRA.... lol

i did the FRA untill i got the FTRA... your gonna have to trim your airbox to do the FTRA anyway so <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Old 12-20-2001, 12:53 AM
  #8  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
BLUEBYU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Overland Park, KS, USA
Posts: 933
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

What do ya think about ducting add'l ram air from the lower "pooper scoopers" on the SS. In other words, open up the two "fake" intake areas behind the grille (remove the styrofoam by dremmeling an opening to match the opening behind) and use a 2.5" reducer connected to a 1.5" flex duct protruded through the black cover piece in front of the condensor and mount just under the FTRA intake? Currently, I have these ducts connected to the bottom of the air box via two 1.5" cut-outs (sealed) w/ panty hose banded around the duct ends. This system seems to work pretty well...I see a definite impression on the filter. I could easily add the FTRA intake and cut the ducts back to just under the opening and tie off to the brace. I hope this makes sense....let me know what ya think? Randy
Old 12-20-2001, 08:42 PM
  #9  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
DrkPhx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: St. Michael, MN.
Posts: 4,519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

[quote]Originally posted by BLUEBYU:
<strong>What do ya think about ducting add'l ram air from the lower "pooper scoopers" on the SS. In other words, open up the two "fake" intake areas behind the grille (remove the styrofoam by dremmeling an opening to match the opening behind) and use a 2.5" reducer connected to a 1.5" flex duct protruded through the black cover piece in front of the condensor and mount just under the FTRA intake? Currently, I have these ducts connected to the bottom of the air box via two 1.5" cut-outs (sealed) w/ panty hose banded around the duct ends. This system seems to work pretty well...I see a definite impression on the filter. I could easily add the FTRA intake and cut the ducts back to just under the opening and tie off to the brace. I hope this makes sense....let me know what ya think? Randy</strong><hr></blockquote>

This was one of the first mods listed in the free mods section on LS1.com
Old 12-20-2001, 09:35 PM
  #10  
Staging Lane
 
5litereater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

The FTRA will give you much better gains over just the FRA mod as it will force more air into your engine than the FRA alone. It was the first mod I did along with a new air lid, and the gains were great. From 40 mph on up when I punched it the car pulled so much harder than before. After I got my exhaust I took the car to the track and ran a 8.72 @ 85.52 mph in the 1/8 and a 13.26 @ 107.5 in the 1/4 mph. Thats with an A4 w/ 2:73 gears. If I could have gotten a 1.9 or even a 2.0 60' I could have dipped into the 12s. Now I can't give all the credit to the FTRA, but I feel it had the most to due with my times and trap speed.
Old 12-20-2001, 10:26 PM
  #11  
I can shift faster than you.
iTrader: (21)
 
Jason99T/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 5,133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

I am a big fan of the FTRA kit. It is an excellent mod! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Jason
Old 12-20-2001, 11:10 PM
  #12  
Staging Lane
 
Red Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

[quote]Originally posted by 2K2 LS1:
<strong>Here's a pic of my free ram air. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">

</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey 2K2LS1, i was wondering where did ya get that silicone hose around your throttle body from. I was interested in gettin' something like that for my WS6 cause i wanna get rid of that bellows and have a smooth path to the throttle body but it's hard to find something that will bend up alittle for my car's raised airbox

thanks
Old 12-21-2001, 12:31 AM
  #13  
TECH Fanatic
 
bigSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: PURDUE
Posts: 1,413
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

Fast Toys - Perhaps you could clarify (since it is your product) if you should or shouldn't block off the front of the air box on the SS and WS6 models?
Old 12-21-2001, 10:20 AM
  #14  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Fast Toys Performance Parts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,638
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

For the best performance, you SHOULD block the front of the air box on ram air cars with the seal provided in the kit.

Please note that on WS6 cars only, the front of the air box is 1/2" too tall for the seal included in the kit. On these cars, you will have to supplement our seal with some foam weather stripping or tape.

Thanks
Old 12-21-2001, 10:42 AM
  #15  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
BLUEBYU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Overland Park, KS, USA
Posts: 933
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

I just recently posted a reply and indicated I wanted to duct the FRA in conjunction with the FTRA. I understand the FRA has been around for some time, but I extended the ducts through 1.5" cut outs in the bottom of the air box. To do the FTRA I will obviously have to cut the ducts back to a point under the FTRA intake area. Do you think the FRA will have a positive effect on the FTRA gains?
Randy
Old 12-29-2001, 06:23 AM
  #16  
TECH Resident
 
Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: san diego ca
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Should I do the FTRA or the FRA??

what's the best (easiest) way to cut out the styrofoam? <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:13 AM.