What's Up With Grotyohann ???
I ordered headers from him at 1-973-228-6402. He said he'd ship the headers to a coating company which would ship them to me. The y-pipe and cats would be shipped directly to me, two days transit time. My card was charged on 1/8 and as of today, 1/17, I've heard nothing. Left a message on his machine a couple days ago and call not returned. Tried three times today and got recording that phone not in service. On the fourth call, I got through and left a message for him to call me. Now I see a couple of negative posts on this board about him. Any feedback is appreciated.
I was one of Roger's first 50 customers and waited over 6 months for my headers, call your CC company, cancel them, and get something else, at least you have a choice!
I didn't, they were the only header available back then.
He made a post on LS1.COM about 2 years ago, concerning him and his business, I skewered him in about a 3 page reply, so did about 50 other people, hadn't heard much from him since.
<strong>ARE has a GP going on for them right now I think. They are great headers, just hard to get. I got lucky I guess. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I was up in Toronto a couple weeks ago talking with Nick about having some work done including headers. Since he didn't have Grots, and since they are hard to get, I ordered them direct. Hope Nick has better luck than I have.
Rodger is the bigest DICK you will ever deal with.
I had to get a lawer to get my headers from him.
After waiting 4-5 months. Then no Y-pipe
agian The lawer had to get him to send it.
The Y-pipe is a huge piece of ****. I think
I could have made a better one from pep boy
parts bin. And now 1 year later I have never
recieved my 02 sims, extensions, or stage 8
locks That I paid for from him.
[ January 18, 2002: Message edited by: MechMan ]</p>
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I've never dealt with him, but it seems like he could be out of business pretty soon. Bad service is tolerated when you're the only game in town. He makes a a nice header, but it is pricey and the competition has really increased in the past few months with the Hookers & Dynatechs, not to mention TTS, FLP & SLP.
[ January 18, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</p>
<strong>You should just get a set of hooker long tubes or some dynatechs.
Jimmy <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Since the Grots won't happen, I'm thinking of the Hookers. Problem is whether a couple of R/T cats can be put in the y-pipe. Talked to Hooker yesterday and they have no idea concerning clearance. Will have to wait and see.
Jimmy <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
<strong>Other than ordering Grots from a distributor, has anyone bought directly from Grotyohann?
My card was charged on 1/8 and as of today, 1/17, I've heard nothing. Left a message on his machine a couple days ago and call not returned. Tried three times today and got recording that phone not in service. On the fourth call, I got through and left a message for him to call me. Now I see a couple of negative posts on this board about him. Any feedback is appreciated.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Heh, you're only at the start..
I waited 5 months after my card was charged to get my set, only managing to talk to him 1 time in between, leaving 10 or more messages..
The quality really can't be beat, but you're better off buying from a reseller like Thunder or More Performance when they have them in stock. I don't know if I'd even go with ARE, when I was shopping for my H/C Nick never called me back after 3 calls, so I went with Mike @ MMS. Seems customer service in the LS1 arena is spotty at best.
[ January 20, 2002: Message edited by: HalfMoon ]</p>
Dave
ARE/FASTECH 432
www.thebeasst.com
[QB]He now makes full (not stepped) 1 7/8" headers? QB]<hr></blockquote>
Yes they are full 1 7/8" tubes, he said we got the first set he had made. We have had them for about 2 months. Must have been our lucky day, good service & a new product <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Dave
ARE/FASTECH 432
www.thebeasst.com
<strong>He now makes full (not stepped) 1 7/8" headers?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
[pimp mode]
GP for them at ARE (you don't have to deal with Rodger). They would probably be a nice addition to the big bore motor. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0"> Check it out in the sponsors section.
[/pimp mode] <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<strong>Silver:
Does this mean you joined the GP?</strong><hr></blockquote>
??? I don't know ??? All I know is I spoke with Nick earlier today about arranging for him to work on my engine in March. I told him of my trouble ordering direct and he said he would have a set for me when I bring the car in.

